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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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I'd be really surprised if I get to post my 1387 coin in the 6th edition, but perhaps I might yet be able to get there in the 7th.
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I'll be hopping on the Lithuanian bandwagon soon enough, but for now here is a Batzen from the German City State of Isny:

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Of course I love that Lorraine teston and 1523 is not a common date for them.
Yes, reaching 1387 could be tough but I will do my part with a recently acquired 1388 Flanders coin.

I remember that Isny coin, very interesting design.

I have another Lithuanian half groat for 1522:
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I don't think I have any more Lithuanian (or Polish) coins after that, but my coin for 1522 is also a Lithuanian halfgroat...

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Another Batzen for me today. Two larger coins in a row is uncommon for me as I had searched out cheaper (smaller) coins for this part of my OFEY collection. This one was minted in Augsburg.

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I've got a batzen of the German principality of Ottingen for 1521:
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I've got a batzen of the German principality of Ottingen for 1521
Feels like yesterday that we discussed its consistently backwards N shape in a previous edition...

For 1521 I have the first 16th century dated coin I ever acquired, a pfennig of the Archbishopric of Salzburg from the tenure of Matthäus Lang von Wellenburg.

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...sorry, it's uniface and apparently I never quite bothered to take a pic of the other side.

I was never able to find a good explanation of what exactly is going on with that funky-looking flower on the coat of arms (it can also be seen, though less clearly, on Spence's 1525 Salzburg zweier from last page).
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Yes hard to know about all the design elements on these @j1m.

For today, I've got a Lithuanian Half Groschen:

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I was never able to find a good explanation of what exactly is going on with that funky-looking flower on the coat of arms (it can also be seen, though less clearly, on Spence's 1525 Salzburg zweier from last page).


It looks like the flower is a composite of a rose (left half) and lily (right half):
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My 1520 coin is another Scheidnitz half groat:
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Ok yes I think that you are right @tdz.

For me, I have another Half Groschen:
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And another for 1519:

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And another for 1518:
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Me too!

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Change of pace for 1517, this Batzen from Carinthia, Austria:
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Also Austria for me for 1517 - Salzburg again, this time under Matthäus's predecessor Leonard von Keutschach...

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I did remember to take a pic of the other side this time! It's uniface, but you can kind of see some mirrored details on the back side.

Keutschach arms feature a turnip - also not exactly a common heraldic device, but at least a recognizable one. IIRC there's an interesting story behind that turnip, but I don't recall what exactly it was.

AFAIK we might see a few more of those turnips as we go; the dated coinage of Salzburg goes back to 1500 - just barely early enough to make it into Levinson - and from this point on it's Leonard von Keutschach all the way.
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