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Papal States Italy 20 Baiocchi Grade? (1850)

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Wondering what grade this likely makes?

Looks cleaned right? Or not?

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 Posted 08/05/2022  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it has been cleaned.
I also don't think there are signs of any wear.

Sth. strange is going on on the reverse though, and the obverse fields look rough somehow.

I will abstain from proposing a grade.

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 Posted 08/10/2022  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Updated photos in any case, I hope for the reverse discolouration to be natural but I'm out of my depth here.
The fields are lustrous, the reverse fields are clear and very reflective, I can see my face in it. Full lustre to the reverse it seems. In hand it seems MS.


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 Posted 08/12/2022  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe I see stamp die polishing lines on the reverse. No idea what this area with different surface/color might be. Would be nice if an expert weighed in.

The fields on the obverse still look homogeneously grainy, I do not find that terribly attractive I confess.
But maybe this is the original state.
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Thanks for the reply. I posted it around instagram and the concencus was that it had maybe been dipped a few times which might explain the discoloration, or something perhaps sat on it for a long time. The reverse is actually proof like, the fields are brilliant mirrors so thats odd. I'm gonna send it to NGC and I think it has a chance at straight grading, but we shall see &
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I doubt very much this one will straight grade. MS details, cleaned.
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Yep came back UNC details cleaned.
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