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1863 NY Civil War Token, You Versus NGC

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 Posted 08/11/2022  9:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I thought I posted this over on the Exonumia forum yesterday, but evidently I didn't or it generated no interest. If I doesn't belong here then apologies.

1863-NY-Civil-War-Token,-You-Versus-NGC

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 Posted 08/11/2022  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a lot of the scratches and smudges are on the plastic. I think it is MS-64.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a gorgeous token. As always, classic designs are just amazing. Not familiar with the series so no grade from me, but wanted to comment on how nice this piece is.

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Lovely piece! Haven't come across it on the exonumia forum.
Since I've never seen another one for comparison, I'll pass on grading it.
One thing I'd want to look at carefully is whether that's wear on the stag's head between the snout and the ear, including the base of the antler, or should we be seeing more hair in that area?
As a token collector for 40 years I've found that my grading is typically a half- to a full grade less optimistic than NGC's.

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 Posted 08/11/2022  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous!
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 Posted 08/11/2022  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking its MS-63 but love the design.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
64BN

I have an AU example of the same, this is much nicer
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 Posted 08/12/2022  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it me, or does that red eye in the stag make it look like one of the monsters in an old Godzilla movie ?
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Wonderful! I see the "Godzilla" aspect of the design. It's that knuckled brow. Sure looks like big G to me!

I can't add my guess.

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 Posted 08/12/2022  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
63BN
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I'll say MS-64BN. Very cool piece.
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I'll assume it's just a weak strike as some areas do not show definition (i.e. animals fur)...MS-63

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I'll say MS-63 - 64 RB. I think there is enough red left to call it RB.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  06:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello All,

It is almost 48 hours since I posted this one, so I am going to close it out now.

NGC MS 64 RB

This one is a part of The Penny Lady's stock and has some numismatic history to it.

https://thepennylady.com/coins/1864...-ngc-ms64rb/

For me this one is difficult because there's a lot of rub on the skin of the obv & rev fields. Who knows, perhaps the images don't give an accurate picture - no pun intended - with a slow rotation there is full luster in those areas. Plus, the color - RB - is debatable. In the end it doesn't really matter, BN versus RB, because this one is a looker.

That all being said, if I were into tokens then I'd snap this one up. The eye appeal along with the coin history makes it a desirable little gem. (I'm not advocating anyone buy the thing. I'm speaking only from my own perspective.)
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08/14/2022 06:48 am
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Great piece. Thanks for sharing.
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