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Silver Maple With Both Sides Showing The Reverse

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Its not from RCM. Magician coins also use real coins in most cases which is why they look real and fool many people without close inspection, and these arent real maple leafs based on the comparison.

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Without the weight (1 oz) or face value ($5), I am inclined to think this is some sort of fantasy strike. It might very well be silver, but the matte side has a funny look to it (usually 'reverse proof' or specimen quality coins have the lined fields).
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From a 2019 Classic Coins Set set according to CCCS
254770090990
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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From a 2019 Classic Coins Set set according to CCCS
254770090990


Excellent! Thank you DBM!

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From a 2019 Classic Coins Set set according to CCCS


Good find as that at least is the same coin. That set it claims to be from below seems to have a medallion 23.17 g weight which features the familiar Maple Leaf design used on Canadian bullion coins since 1979, in two different finishes; proof on the reverse, reverse proof on the obverse. The stock photos just do not look exactly like the two coins so far.

https://www.mint.ca/en-us/shopping/...-pack-173712
https://www.londoncoincentreinc.com...n-medallion/
https://www.etsy.com/listing/123420...le-leaf-fine
https://www.colonialacres.com/GP-20...-2019.ml.htm
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From a 2019 Classic Coins Set set

Correct. I own one of the sets, Instead of a silver dollar, it has a Maple Leaf medal (that's why there is no denomination on the piece) struck on a SD planchet (36.07 mm diameter, 23.17 grams weight) - the other coins in the set are silver and colourised.





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@commems Can you post a photo of front/back of that medallion when possible (or at least the black proof side) as the stock photos of that coin in the set just dont look identical in order to fully confirm its the same medallion from that set and just looks different in real life than stock photos as happens. Should be the same. Otherwise we can try to get a photo from the Etsy seller or another set if you cant - we know you have quite a collection so may not be easily in reach.

At least its a real medallion with some value once verified and limited to 7,000 sets!
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I found at least half a dozen on ebay.
Prices asked range from $45CDN to $378CDN.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I have not followed NCLT for a few years, but this medal did create some excitement yesterday, now we all know
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Very neat. I have never followed NCLT much and it's my first time seeing this one.
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It could be the medallion from the 2019 set, but I'm not 100%.
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Interesting discussion, learned a lot here.
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It could be the medallion from the 2019 set, but I'm not 100%.


Yes, its verified now that this is the medallion from that set, limited to 7,000. The stock photos from that set of the medallion were not matching up fully but your photo of the set in real life along with new photos the Etsy seller uploaded of the actual medallion after asking https://www.etsy.com/listing/123420...le-leaf-fine clearly shows the stock photos were different then the actual medallion in real life which do match the coin from the original post. Heres another https://www.ebay.com/itm/254315750717 It is neither a magician coin or a 3rd party knockoff but an actual release from RCM in 2019.
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I'm going to say it...

What on Earth was the RCM thinking, in making this medallion?

Because it has all of the characteristics I'd expect to see in a cheap Chinese knock-off of a maple leaf:
- low weight
- slight design differences compared with genuine coins
- the "accidental" omission of the weight and the denomination
- The "rare mint error" of being a double-tailed coin.

You see fake pandas etc all the time, just like that on the fakemasters sales sites.

If DBM hadn't chimed in with what it actually was, I'd never have guessed it to be a genuine RCM issue. My answer to the OP's question would have been "Cheap Chinese fake, certainly not real silver". And I'd have been quite confident in that answer.
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...Because it has all of the characteristics I'd expect to see in a cheap Chinese knock-off of a maple leaf: If DBM hadn't chimed in with what it actually was, I'd never have guessed it to be a genuine RCM issue. My answer to the OP's question would have been "Cheap Chinese fake, certainly not real silver". And I'd have been quite confident in that answer


That was my thought also at first, why I joked about it not being a 'real' maple leaf proof example as previously minted by RCM or a magician coin made from a real maple leaf since it was clearly different visually, but that did not ever rule out a special release which DBM found and it may have turned up otherwise by researching what it might be otherwise or why it was made. It just happens this one was in a set made in 2019 by RCM so its a real product separated from the set and with stock photos that dont normally look like the coin making it harder to figure it out rather than a 3rd party knockoff or fantasy coin. Not everyone knew about the set also since only 7,000 were made.
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