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Increase In The Prices: An Inquiry

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 Posted 08/28/2022  04:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I am curious about your impressions on the market of Ancient coins. Personally, I am a collector of Greek coins for about six/seven years, and since I am collecting them I have the feeling of a really impressive increase of prices, due probably to many factors : the massive use of online auctions and the internationalization of the market, the Covid crisis and now the inflation due to the war in Ukraine and probably many others of which I am not aware . As a result , I would say that the prices, especially the last too years, have reached a crazy level, sometimes they are twice the price a coin would have cost three or four years ago. It becomes very difficult to buy really beautiful pieces. Do you have the same experience ? Or am I exaggerating the situation ? I would really like to have your feedback on the topic.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a lifetime collector of ancient coins, in all price ranges since the early 1970's. There have been periods when I have not bought any coins when prices have risen too quickly. I have always been an opportunistic buyer taking advantage of a good value for money situation across the whole of numismatics.
Bargains are easier to find with this strategy.

Generally speaking ancient coin prices have been a reflection of the fine arts and antique markets.

Over the last two or three years, there has been an average increase of something like 30% in the prices of all coins of significant value, and not just ancient coins. Same applies to prices of classic cars and antique decorative art objects and such like.

When current cash investment returns are very low against high World inflation rates, more buyers are emerging to buy objects such as ancient coins, as an example.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, this is really helpful! So my impression was not completely misguided.
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Prices have gone up a large amount for more rare items, and even 'relatively uncommon' ones have bumped recently.
There seems to be a % of new investors that are seeing ancients and art as a less volatile option than 'traditional' investments.
One of the coin dealers I visit even offered to buy back a particular tetradrachm I got from him at almost 50% over what I paid a few months ago, so he obviously has a demand without enough supply.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prices for ancient and mediaeval coins have gone crazy in the past few years. It was happening before he Ukraine War started, so I think we can rule out war effects as the primary cause. My guess is it's purely related to COVID.

The worldwide mass lockdowns affected everyone. Some people lost their jobs, were forced to leave their country of residence or otherwise were made much worse off, while others found themselves in the situation with lots of unexpected spare money, but their usual luxury expenditures (world travel, dining out, etc) were now blocked to them. So members of this second group who had an interest in coins went shopping online for coins. The rising prices have also encouraged those members of that first group to reluctantly sell their coins (again, online) for much-needed cash. This trickle of supply has helped sustain high prices,whereas a sudden rush to sell would have caused a glut and resultant price crash.

The price rise for coins has been across the board, but perhaps it's particularly noticeable for ancient coins because ancient coin prices had for the longest time long been rather slow; for example, the Sear millennial edition Roman catalogue was published 20 years ago but until COVID started, people were still using it as a price guide, because prices had changed so little. Now, all the price guide prices are out the window.
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