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Getting Uncut Sheets At Banks?

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So this is more of a scenario. I was told I could order uncut sheets of money from my bank. Now obviously I have been doing a ton of reading on the subject of collecting and the next time I visited the bank I asked if I could order some 2 dollar bills or maybe even some one dollar bills but in uncut sheets. But doing research on money collecting I said Bank Notes instead of dollar bills and the reaction I got it was like the whole room was staring at me. Now I also want to say at this particular branch I am actually speaking to the bank manager who then replies "Bank Notes?" she actually excused herself to ask someone what I was talking about and brought out the branch manager? who then continued to say " As an institution we would not be able to provide uncut bills" almost as he was offended. Did I use the wrong term because it felt like I may have by the way they reacted?
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Civilians, or non-collectors seldom if ever refer to paper money as bank notes. That's vernacular mostly used within the numismatic community.

Banks do not distribute uncut currency. You buy that directly from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing through the USMint website, or through auction houses like ebay. If I had to guess, I'd guess most of the bank employees have never seen a sheet of uncut paper money.

Link to uncut currency- https://catalog.usmint.gov/paper-cu...ut-currency/
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 Posted 09/23/2022  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the concept of "uncut notes" would be alien to your typical bank worker. As far as they are concerned, banknote sheets (if they were aware such things ever existed) would all be cut at the BEP, and none ever escape. Someone bringing in an uncut sheet and trying to bank it, would be treated with suspicion as they would assume such a sheet was counterfeit, or stolen from the BEP.

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I was told I could order uncut sheets of money from my bank.

I don't know who told you that or why, but they were mistaken.

Here's something you always need to keep in mind: banks are not a collector's friend. They are not there to supply collectables for you to collect, they are there to supply money to their account-holders. Special made-for-collectors coins and notes are generally never seen inside a bank, and if a bank did see one, they would be obligated to treat it as money, rather than as a collectable. And they would generally not re-issue a collectable coin or note back into circulation: they would send it back to the Mint, or the Federal Reserve, for redemption and destruction. To a bank, a coin or banknote collector is a nuisance, an irrational person who insists that this piece of money is somehow more desirable to own than that piece of money, when every bank worker knows that money is supposed to be fungible, and the only reason to swap one piece of money for another is convenience - or for a criminal who wants to swap their fake/stolen money for laundered money. Banks tend not to hire collectors, because collectors behind the till behave irrationally.

As for the "currency" versus "banknote" terminology: the use of the word "currency" to mean "banknote" is a peculiarly American usage, and seems to only have arisen since the late 1980s. Everywhere else in the English-speaking world, "currency" means money, in whatever form - both coins and banknotes. Older American banknote collecting books use the term "banknote", but that term began to be considered technically incorrect, as not all paper money was issued by a bank. "Paper money" - that last phrase is now rarely used worldwide, also due to being sometimes technically incorrect, as a large number of countries now make banknotes which are no longer made of paper.
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So how about "printed money", can we use that?
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Some good replies. I would use the term Uncut Currency Sheets if asking/discussing, but since these are not normally sold or ordered through banks as they are not used for commerce but direct as mentioned you may have to do a bit more explaining just to not get a deer in headlights look from some of the tellers. They also sell shredded currency: https://www.bep.gov/services/shredd...distribution

Also some banks and 3rd party sites sell checkbooks of new currency mostly for gifts as a novelty since your new you may have missed that recent discussion: http://goccf.com/t/430994&whichpage...5445#3705445

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Thank you for all the replies everything is super helpful. I wanted to add to the conversation I forgot to mention when I initially went into the bank I had also ordered 50 2 dollar bills an a box of pennies. As was mentioned previously I did get a look like oh great someone who is collecting. Today my money was delivered they said they would call me and they did not. I figured thats okay they are busy but when I got there they took about twenty minutes to count my my two dollar bills and my pennies were in a sealed box? So I was thinking that maybe they went through my 2 dollar bills before they gave them to me? I haven't had the chance to look at them because I was actually more excited about my pennies. The first one I found was a 1969 D with no FG and a space above the roof of the Lincoln memorial which I will be posting about soon in another thread. But I think I will have to go to another branch for the two dollar bills because they also did not pull my id and were just like you are good to go and then called me 30 minutes after they closed to say they forgot to charge me for the money. It caught me off guard I was just like okay well did you figure it out? lol As for the currency sheets the thank you data dragon for the link to find those I really appreciate it.
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The US Mint sells uncut uncut currency. But I'm not sure of their release schedule. And it's not a face value.
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Could you cut it yourself in the future? Or would they be marked somehow as non circulation?
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To my knowledge, uncut sheets have very high serial numbers, 98XXXXXX and higher I believe. to thwart unsuspecting errors to be produced. If you see a "note" that is miscut and has a really high serial number, it is a not as a result of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP). Additionally, paper currency is not a U.S. Mint product, it's manufactured at the BEP in Washington D.C. or Fort Worth, Texas.
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It gets confusing. Originally, uncut sheets, Lucky Money, and other collectible paper products could be ordered directly from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing's website The Money Store. Now, all of the collector based BEP products are marketed on the U.S.Mint's website.
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