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Is This 1913 1c Likely Cleaned?

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I picked this up over the weekend at the LCS, in his discount basket. I believe it was cleaned at some point in the past so I would give it an AU details. ?
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Hard to tell from these pics.
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Pics are a bit bad but has the typical look of cleaned copper
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Not to beat the dead horse, but here are some closeups in case that helps.
I must say I'm disappointed in the results I get from the Tomlov camera I bought for $160. I have tried additional auxillary lighting and experimenting with the onboard camera adjustments, but it seems the results still aren't "clear" enough to show on this forum. About all it does is magnify.
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Based on these images, I would say definitely cleaned. Has the appearance of a coin dipped in some type of mild acid. AU Details
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Thanks Ty.
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$160,I think you over paid. What make model? You also posted in the wrong section, I PMed the mods to move your post.
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Cell phone cameras often work much better than cheap "real" cameras and modern cell phones have features like auto white balance, auto focus/auto macro, and 15-20+Mp image sensors that would have been high end kit on DSLR cameras only a few years ago. They are not much use beyond a few feet, though, relying on fake (digital) zoom instead of proper lens zoom, but for things like coins they do a great job in most cases even with poor lighting.

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based on these photos the coin looks VF35 (details) cleaned.

the glare just overpowers the surfaces. if you do have a phone try this

1. remove coin from holder if possible
2. turn off flash
3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day
4. move phone about 3in from coin
5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus
6. hold phone steady. if you cant then place something on either side of the coin at that distance and lay phone on top. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring
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Thanks everyone. I'll give some of these ideas a try.
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I'll say EF sharpness, with no idea of the true color. Even if straight, which seems unlikely, not worth more than $15. Just my opinion.
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Here are 2 shots with phone and light ring. I'll assume these are better for evaluation than the previous ones?
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There is no blue spot on the reverse by the way. Not sure how that got past me in the shot, and, the coin was out of the flip. ?
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Based on new pics I'll now say VF-30 or 35. Value around $5-6.
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Thanks Coinfrog.
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