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 Posted 03/15/2006  3:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Abyss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Knowing who they were and what they did,would you consider having some of their coins as part of your collection ?
I think I've read somewhere that a lot of collectors do not buy them or hold them because of the obvious reasons.
But are they part of history,or is it better to just ignore them ?
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 Posted 03/15/2006  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone has their opinion about that point in time, most of it being negative thoughts.

However regardless of that most people find the history very interesting, including the coins.

I personally have a fair few Nazi coins, it doesn't mean I agree with what happened back then in Germany, I do however find this history very interesting.

Good Question though, I am also interested to see other people's thoughts.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a few and I treat them as any other.
What happened in that time was hoorible, but the coins had nothing to do with it.

History bears many unpleasant events, it is an opinion to be respected if someone does not want to have anything to remind those days.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add demonboy279 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just cause the people did some stuff dont mean the coins did. Shouldnt hold anything against the coins. I mean every country has a bad time in its history but that dont stop you from collecting the coins.
So pretty much sayin they are still great coins. And they hold a very important part of history. I dont have none yet but I'm gonna get them.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well,to answer my own question,ONLY from my personal point of view: I wish they would've never been born,and that the humanity never knew the events...call me stupid,but it is a big question within me if I should buy them,or if I ever want them around me...i guess i'll have to think more about it.
I agree with the fact that the coins are just...coins after all.But part of collecting is to know the history behind them.
Is just because I've seen them listed on ebay and I was wondering how other people here feel about the issue.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My point of view:

One positive thing that came out of WW2 is knowledge. We now know how to avoid such an horrific event. there were also many other lessons learnt from this. Let us hope such an event never happens again

Thats a part of the reason why I like the coins from the Nazi era (History and what it means to us today).
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 Posted 03/15/2006  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think any sane person would curse the Nazi thought, because to me it is insane.
Not that there's even a bit of sane thing in what they've done, I think that WW2 is jus so hated because it is the most recent one.

To explain that, Throughout history, almost every country is inolved in a genocide, mass murder, I hesitate to give names but I think I can refer to my country's ancestors; Ottomans, their enlarging strategy has arised hatred against them. Bulgarian have a holiday to celebrate gaining independance from the Turks, they even have coins depicting that.
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I am not offended a bit by that, because they are right from the point they stand.


My point is; I don't think I can have any feelings towards an object because of the things it's owner may have done.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are lots of people who do collect military themes. Badges, Helmets, Medals, etc. You are not saying you agree with the government of the day but that you are interested in the history of the time.
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There is something serious that people have so far failed to mention. Appearently Swiss gold coin minted around 1945 used German gold, which does not seem to be any trouble. Except there is one major issue - traces of mercury has been detected only around these years, which is traced to the stash of German gold during the Nazi era.

Of course, if you know your history well enough, where could such gold be found, with traces of mercury? And let's not forget how bad the economy of Germany was in during that time.

Yes, gold extracted from the jews in concentration camps.

Now getting back to the topic, do you still think such coins are collectable or it is to a point where it honestly disgusts you? Of course, gold is gold, so it's still redeemable as money.
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 Posted 03/15/2006  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Thank You for the lesson...i had no idea.And no,i will never keep something like that.
I agree with Renal,toast and KLD.That is why I have this problem.The history should never be forgotten,and having these coins will make sure of that,and that is why I would buy them.But creating a demand for them,might give the wrong impression as for the motives behind why we want them.Or maybe it's too late and I should go to sleep
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 Posted 03/16/2006  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some people don't have a choice. In France, I understand, it's illegal to collect Nazi memorabilia of any kind - this probably extends to coins. I seem to recall a test case in the French courts a couple of years ago where people complained that Nazi stuff was available on French ebay; IIRC, ebay lost and had to redesign the ebay France website to block all sales of Nazi material.

Personally, I don't have a problem with collecting Nazi coins; they are part of the German coin series just as the Third Reich is part of German history.
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 Posted 03/16/2006  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That story about Swiss coins and teeth is a false "urban legend".
Mercury would have been removed by the smelting process.

However, I refuse to own any coins produced by Mongolia until they apologize for the atrocities committed by Ghengis Khan.
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 Posted 03/16/2006  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Willy, if you can painfully explain to me how traces of Mercury, which is an element only slightly heavier than gold itself, is removing during the refining process, I am more than interested to listen. Swiss gold bullion coins aren't 99.99% pure you know. Fineness of such coin is at .900 if I remember right.

We are talking mass spectrometry detection here, which can detect up to 0,001 microns of elements. I don't think refining techniques are that superior yet.
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Here is an example of an link, but I would honestly like to know if you can confirm if such "Swiss gold and teeth" is nothing more than "an urban legend".

http://www.germanculture.com.ua/lib...a020200b.htm

More urls will be up if necessary.
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B. Traven's book "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" written in 1929 stated that no one would buy or wear gold if they knew the "hands it had passed through".
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 Posted 03/16/2006  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dgoose50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although I have no interest in NAZI COINS they should be available to those so inclined;as they are a part of history and the lessons that can be learned from it.
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