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"Alls Of Old England" (Id: 1790's British Conder Token)

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 Posted 02/24/2009  8:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add robocoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
any idea what this is?



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 Posted 02/24/2009  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a token from before the revolution!

RedBook doesn't have it though...
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 Posted 02/24/2009  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
British Conder token, from the 1790's. The reverse legend is "The Wooden Walls of Old England".
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Sap? Is there anywhere to look that one up? or do you have any history behind it? Who is the person featured on the coin? What is that referring to when it says wooden walls? The ship itself or something else? I now feel strong curiosity and apparently also feel no hesitation to give you the third degree. lol
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G'day,
I think that "The Wooden Walls of Old England" are understood to be a metaphor for the wooden ships of the Royal Navy, at sea, providing an effective barrier around England &/or Britain.

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Sorry, Malissa, I made my previous post in haste.

If you Google the exact phrase "The Wooden Walls of Old England" you'll come up with several different tokens with this reverse, as well as other cultural references to the Royal Navy. This one has the Duke of York on the obverse; this one has Admiral Lord Howe. However, I believe this token has a portrait of Shakespeare, like this one; unfortunately, I've been unable to find either online or in my little token book any reference to a Shakespeare obverse / Walls reverse token.
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