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2023 1 Oz British Silver Britannia Coin

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So I was looking at these at JM and they say 2023 on them and have Elizabeth II on the reverse? Shouldn't it be Charles III? I am assuming they made them in 2022 before the Queen passed with a 2023 date? Seems like a rather odd coin is this normal?
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I have 10 of the 2023 dates coins with the Queen. It's just a limited run. Charles will be on them sometime in the new year.
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Yes, I have a 2 oz and 10 oz Yale of Beaufort, both dated 2023 with Elizabeth II.
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So is that SOP in the past to issue coins with a sovereign that died the prior year?
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Don't know if it's SOP from historical perspective, but The Royal Mint announced they are releasing 2023 coins of the Queen, limited production and will release 2023 coins of Charles early 2023. I assume the mint had already begun the process of making the dies and striking 2023 Queen coins when she died. They, with Royal approval, decided to release them rather than melt them.
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Pop ~ 275 (they don't grade well)
Produced for about a week before she passed. Production stopped immediately. Distributed as a tribute.

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Produced for about a week then stopped immediately? I'm curious where you got your info. I'm only aware The Royal Mint saying it's a limited issue then a switch to King Charles by early 2023. Many thousands 2023 with Queen have been made because a lot of dealers have them. You can buy them in monster boxes of 500. They are not rare. I got some because for 2023 there will be some with Queen, some with King and great security features. I like them.

The current grade population of MS70 doesn't mean much currently IMO. Wait for more time to pass to see how many will be graded.

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So is that SOP in the past to issue coins with a sovereign that died the prior year?

Sorry I missed this question when it was posted a few weeks ago.

No, it is not "SOP" for mints to issue "wrong year" or "wrong monarch" coins. But the last time a British monarch died (1952), coinage production was a much smaller affair, and NCLT coins effectively didn't exist. Mints didn't have marketing departments and generally produced coins that had the current correct date on them, rather than the modern mint SOP of ante-dating coins so the marketing department can sell and ship them in time for Christmas.

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I got some because for 2023 they're be some with Queen, some with King, which I don't know if that has happened before.

I'm pretty sure neither Britain nor any of its colonies has issued coinage depicting two different monarchs in the same year; not since 1820 when George III died, anyway. This is mainly because the process for obtaining an official coinage portrait is usually much longer than what we saw with Charles III. Mints usually continued to make coins with the late monarch's portrait, and the previous year's date, until the new portrait was ready. George III died on 29th January, so there was enough time to get a new coinage portrait out and strike some circulating coins.

You can tell the problem has been the portrait, because coin series that lack the portrait show no such inhibitions. The Indian state of Kutch managed to issue coins for all three different British monarchs dated 1936: George V, Edward VIII and George VI. But these are typical "Indian States" coins that have no portrait, nor even English language inscriptions.
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Sap...thanks for the info.
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