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I won these as part of a group of things. They were described as Singora / Shampon, lead issues, 1785. Both appear to be made of lead, have the arabic number 1600 on them, are 25x20 mm, and have no other writing on them. Can anybody verify this information or otherwise tell me more about them? I've found nothing online.  |
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I have not heard of such pieces. The only items on record being issued by or for Singora (a now-ruined city in what is now the deep south of Thailand near the city of Songkhla) are these coins: round, cash-style coins with Chinese on one side and Arabic on the other. These coins are all made of tin, not lead; tin is commonly found in the Malay Peninsula and many "native coins" are made of tin. The coins on zeno.ru I linked to above are all from the late 1800s, struck under Thai rule; in 1785, the town was still an empty ruin after the Thai conquest in 1680. The Thais attempted to sell it to the French in 1685, but the French weren't interested in buying a burned-out ruin. So I'm reasonably sure your item is nor from Singora. And most of the Malay Peninsula Sultanates coins are much the same shape: local derivations of the Chinese cash coin, round, with a round hole, and made of tin. I can't really see anything that looks like your piece. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Yes, that is the one... I wanted the tin ingot and now I'm trying to figure out what these things that came with it are.
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@naut, thx for the clarification. Having now spent a solid hour dredging around on the interwebs, I'm coming up completely empty.  I question whether the lead pieces are coins, but rather I'm thinking lead weights or tokens instead. It's just a gut feeling though and I def might be wrong about this. I'm looking forward to someone figuring this out and me learning something. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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It is wholly reasonable that these are not coins at all. '1600' doesn't make sense as an Islamic year.
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nautilator, what is the weight of these items? Lead is a most inappropriate choice of metal for a coin. I agree with Spence - they are probably weights for use in a balance.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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