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One Dollar 1851 Gold Coin - Differences In Design ?

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 Posted 12/01/2022  4:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pound_p to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can someone please coment this one gold dollar from 1851 . The coin has two or three details that puzzled me . The last number shows little bending to the right, the thert number in 1851,resembles a closed " 5 " and the base of the number at top looks it have a different from the usual curve.
It would be helpful to know if other collectors have come across to a similar coin.

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 Posted 12/01/2022  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pound_p to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This images are for comparison purposes only.


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 Posted 12/01/2022  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please show a photo of the Obverse as well.
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 Posted 12/01/2022  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, large full pics of both sides please.
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I would like to know the reason why I see green spots in the pics.
What is the accurate weight?
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 Posted 12/02/2022  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pound_p to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinfrog ,I'm sorry for the poor quality of the images but I can't post more images because they are over the limit of size pointed at Coin Community Forum .
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sel_69l

The small green spots you see at the first image are pointing the sections,where you could
see the difference in design. The weight of the coin is 1,67 g and it was bought by reputable coin dealer.
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 Posted 12/03/2022  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quality of second pic of obverse , weight
I have only one gold Dollar in my collection and that an 1853, so my further comments not very useful in this thread.
Nevetheless, the what OP has posted looks to be a die variation but the reasonable question remains:
Are there similar coins out there?
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There are many examples on Heritage archives showing a fat second 1 that appears to be leaning slightly to the right. Yours has a dark area under the 1, it looks like a dent perhaps?, that might contribute to an illusion of a larger lean. Looking like a "closed 5" could just be wear, since the coin looks fairly beat up and gold is soft. I'm not sure what you're seeing in the denomination 1. Larger crisper images would help - your first full coin image is only 28kb and you can upload 10 times that size - practice with the image optimizer some more.
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I would like to apologize but I can't provide more clearer images. I tried to make the images better with the free image optimizer but I don't know how to upload images over the limit pointed at the forum.
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 Posted 12/03/2022  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I usually set my pictures at 800 X 800 and they post without a problem.
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Your last image is still only 45kb and heavily pixelated, at least on this end. If your raw images are >10x better than this, you're doing something wrong. Drag and drop the image into the image optimizer, click "save", note the image size displayed, then drag the "quality" bar down until the displayed size is just under 300kb, and "save as." (This advice is for a desktop computer, I have no idea how this works if you're only using a phone)
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