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Would These Be FS On This Beautiful Nickel?

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Would this be considered FS?
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Please show a pic of the obverse. Thanks.
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Both look FS to me.
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Yes, those are FS. Too bad about all of the deep bag hits on the obverse.
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This is actually only 1 coin. I just took 2 pictures of each side on different backgrounds. What would y'all say this would grade as?
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Looks like a 6 stepper. If the obverse didn't have issues ,this coin would have graded MS-67 FS .
As is MS-64 FS .
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Full steps are not that uncommon with more modern nickels--vs the first ~35+ years of Jefferson mintage. Reverse design tweaks have allowed for a higher occurrence of FS examples (among other things).
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My thought process:

Anything before 1970 with FS is apparently an extreme rarity. This makes sense due to the fact the older age of the coin has more opportunity to wear down the steps. So in 20 years a FS nickel that has had its steps kept intact because it is protected after being graded with then be a rarity. Am I wrong?
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Reading your reply, I'll give you credit for logical thinking. Alas, the logic does not add up with the facts of what actually occurred during the Jefferson nickel series.

First, the appearance of full steps occurs at the mint and is not the result (or lack thereof) of circulation wear as you suggest.

The combination of die quality and strike pressure determine if the new coin is FS.

From 1938 through mid-1987 FS Jefferson nickels were relatively rare due to the die quality and striking issues. In fact, for some early-1950's San Francisco mint issues an MS-FS example is valued in the thousands of dollars.

In 1987 the mint made changes to the dies and coinage equipment resulting in a significant increase in the percentage of FS nickels issued.

These changes continued to occur to the point where today nearly all newly minted Jefferson nickels are FS.

Prove it to yourself by going to your local bank and purchase a roll of new 2022 Jefferson. I bet 45+ of them are FS.

Your 1992 dated Jefferson falls into the date range where a FS example is to be expected as quite common.

As I commented above the significant obverse bag hits are an unfortunate distraction and IMO hold the coin to MS62 at best.

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MS63 6 step but nickelsearcher laid out the history for you regarding that
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nickelsearcher, I need to go to your bank since mine gives me only 40 nickels per roll, sometimes fewer ;-)

there's enough scuffing in the fields, such as left of the date and above cents, that this example may have seen some circulation

if those lighter areas are instead reflections, I'd say MS64 FS at best, held back by the obverse
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