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1854 50c Liberty Seated Half Dollar #2

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$451. Thoughts? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Love the die cracks.

Some evidence obverse and reverse die clash is noticeable (e.g. just to the right of and below the left elbow, above the right hand as a line, and diagonally through the eagle's shield.

MS63.

This is a very, very well struck coin, the detail in the hair, left hand and foot are all very crisp, as are the feathers and shield lines on the reverse.

There are some field disturbances below the tail feathers and in the field right of the right wing. They do not cross over the devices - perhaps die polishing artifacts to remove clash, cabinet friction made more noticeable by the toning, or a light wipe at some point. I think it would grade straight.
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has proof qualities. I was going with MS63 but at that price you either stole it or its AU58 and you got a great price
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I very briefly thought about that but there are only 6? known extant proofs of this date out of a reported 20 minted, none with die cracks that I know of.

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I very briefly thought about that but there are only 6? known extant proofs of this date out of a reported 20 minted,


my first thought was proof and then I looked into it and did not think it was due to the die crack but the fields and strike sure have the look
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Appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the coin.

Thought it was unusual that the obverse presents better than the reverse. Usually it's the other way around.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Uncirculated details! I am not seeing proof here as stars 10-14 are flat, love all the die cracks!
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I have a tendency to agree with Heymikep. The area above Half Dol. on the Rev is of concern to me.
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I can't get above AU-58.
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Any update ?
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Received the coin and it did not have the luster in the images and returned it. This being a fairly common coin I was only interested due to its apparent remaining mint luster.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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What percentage of coins do you return?

From the looks of it, you return quite a lot.
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I return what I feel like returning.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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