1953 Wheat Cent Dropped Die Or Floating Die Clash?

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NY Islander Pillar of the Community United States 978 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 12:47 pm Came across this one today. There is what appears to be a partial second raised wheat stalk below and to the left of the right stalk. You can see it in the close up. Doesn't appear to be any other evidence of a clash on the coin. Other than the dis-coloring the coin is in excellent condition. Your feedback is most welcome. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 1:38 pm Might be a simple die gouge. Looks harshly cleaned. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
NY Islander Pillar of the Community United States 978 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 3:35 pm Based on the location and size this gouge looks very much like a wheat stalk to me. And isn't a die drop a more detailed definition of the cause for a die gouge? Can't a die gouge be caused by a die drop? I agree the shades of colors are odd, but the sharpness of the devices would indicate an intentional harsh cleaning unnecessary. Also, though harsh cleaning may be germane to valuation, it is irrelevant to the question. I always appreciate the critical analysis John1. Though I may see it differently, feedback from a far more experienced coin hunter makes for a greater understanding of the coin. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander 12/23/2022 4:21 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nick10 Pillar of the Community United States 3207 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 4:01 pm a die gouge is a simple explanation, and therefore more likely than many others grime and gunk can cling to sharply struck devices as well as weakly struck ones, and cleaning does not improve the sharpness of a strike Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5604 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 4:19 pm I believe a Small Die Gouge... I'd like to see the coin in hand, to be Certain...... Excellent Vision !!! Report this Post to the Staff
bugil46 Pillar of the Community United States 579 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 5:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 6:33 pm very nice images. Seeing how there is a 'diviot' in the 'second stalk and it is wider than the real stalk stem, I would also have to agree that this is (was) a gouge on the die. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 7:33 pm For it to be a remnant of a die caused wheat stalk ,this coin would have had to have been double struck, and there is no other evidence of this on the rest of the coin. For a dropped die / Mad Clash, there would have to be supporting design element evidence. This doesn't seem to be the case. What this appears to be is a die dent. This could be anything from , yes, another die or tool or odd piece of metal hard enough to dent the die , being dropped on it , to a hard scrap of metal in the striking chamber during the strike. This is what happened to the dies that struck my example here. The thing about this example is the die dent acured during a strike with no planchet. This caused both dies to be dented at the same time. Report this Post to the Staff
NY Islander Pillar of the Community United States 978 Posts	Posted 12/23/2022 7:41 pm I always appreciate every analysis of the community. As usual more feedback is informed by considerate depth and less by reflex. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Report this Post to the Staff
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