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I think I found the Ink Fountain Discoloration error note but its not from Series 2017A FC Block like most that are on ebay. This is from the Series 2013 DF Block. Would this be the same error?  |
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Hi, PCGS put Ink Fountain Contamination Error on the label - see below. One of my friends found one also (below) and the ink looks very blackish on the left side. They all seem to be on 2017a Atlanta FC block so being a different year and block its not the same error, but if you find one with black ink on one side and green ink on the other for a different year of course that also can be an error as well. Printing of the Series 2013 notes was the first project that LEPE press had taken up so its not impossible. By your photo it looks more olive green perhaps a slight overinking/heavy inking from when I blow it up a bit as I found overinking was super common on 2013s but generally more so on single digits. I've also heard it called LEPE Press ink contamination error and LEPE black ink serial number Mismatched Serial Ink.   Edited by datadragon
01/13/2023 4:19 pm
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Hi, PCGS put Ink Fountain Contamination Error on the label - see below. One of my friends found one also (below) and the ink looks very blackish on the left side. They all seem to be on 2017a Atlanta FC block so being a different year and block its not the same error, but if you find one with black ink on one side and green ink on the other for a different year of course that also can be an error as well. Printing of the Series 2013 notes was the first project that LEPE press had taken up so its not impossible. By your photo it looks more olive green perhaps a slight overinking/heavy inking from when I blow it up a bit as I found overinking was super common on 2013s but generally more so on single digits. I've also heard it called LEPE Press ink contamination error and LEPE black ink serial number Mismatched Serial Ink. Thanks for the info but the picture above doesn't do the note justice. Here are two other pic's for you to decide:   |
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Interesting. From a closeup of that last image it appears that there is some underinking going on with the left serial as the last 4 digits clearly are underinked while the first 4 digits have parts on the right side that are starting to become underinked so its looking more like an insufficient inking error and this is possible on one side only of the serial number since 2013. https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/artic...ient-inking/ I agree the serial number 'colors' look different between the two due to that underinking giving it a different appearance. This is different than the other 2017a error.  Edited by datadragon
01/14/2023 10:57 am
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Slightly different shades of green. We're seeing more of this recently. On the new LEPE presses, left and right serial numbers are printed separately, because the new computerized numbering blocks are so large that they can't be crammed together close enough to print all the serial numbers on a sheet in one pass.
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Yes steve, I have read that the new LEPE overprinting lines print all the left-hand serials from one drum, and all the right-hand serials from a second drum. So it's entirely possible for the left and right serials to be different colors since 2013 on the $1. Perhaps also depending how they refill the ink, if one side were to be refilled at a different time this could potentially cause slight coloration differences. This could also better explain this original note since one side appears ready to have insufficient ink while the other side appears normal. Also I have both seen notes, and read posts where people have different colors on both sides different from what vince posted, such as darker on one side which goes along with that thinking. We have seen improper ink mixture errors such as this 1990 $20 note as well https://currency.ha.com/itm/error-n...2113-85325.s and there was the serial on one side that had a rectangle instead of a digit and a mismatched serial in 2013 https://www.mintageworld.com/media/...-error-note/Edited by datadragon
01/14/2023 10:59 am
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cool examples, takes a keen eye to see these.
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All, this is very interesting. this morning I found another note (same series 2013 and same block DF). Here is the one from this morning:  The serial numbers are not that far apart as well. I'm thinking that this might be an error similar to the 2017A series FC Block but no one caught on to it? Can this be? If anyone else is a strap searcher, keep an eye out for these and see if it has the same error. |
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I'm thinking that this might be an error similar to the 2017A series FC Block but no one caught on to it? Can this be?
If anyone else is a strap searcher, keep an eye out for these and see if it has the same error.
The 2017A error its the green ink mixed with some black ink that is intended for things like the black district seal and the 4 numbers so its a ink contamination error. When I posted above to help including a close up of the left serial, it looked like what you are seeing here on your 2013s are the left serial simply becoming under inked in places so its looking more like an minor insufficient inking error and that makes the coloring of the left and right serials looking slightly different, and this is possible on one side only of the serial number since 2013 due to the new serials likely being refilled and printed separately from different drums. So I wonder if a later serial from that series got progressively worse in insufficient inking on that side or they refilled it prior to then. The left 4 digits of the left serial are a bit darker still then the right 4 digits of the left serial in the two notes. On the 2017a error, for the overprint there's actually two different drums that print out all of the information on the right side of the note and then the left side where beforehand it used to be all one drum and each drum I believe holds a few different wells for their respective ink color which allows for the printing of the serial numbers to be the respective green coloring you see. This is all the info I have on this. Edited by datadragon
01/19/2023 3:15 pm
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@datadragon - Thanks for the info. :)
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I have one as well. 1$ bill. One serial number is green, other is def black
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@mdk1308 - That is the series and block for the note that you have?
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So it's entirely possible for the left and right serials to be different colors since 2013 on the $1. Perhaps also depending how they refill the ink, if one side were to be refilled at a different time this could potentially cause slight coloration differences.
This could also better explain this original note since one side appears ready to have insufficient ink while the other side appears normal I finally had a moment to look. This 2017a as I theorized in that quote has slight coloration differences so as mentioned above if one side were refilled at a different time this could potentially cause the slight coloration differences, and further why you found insufficient inking on one side but the other seemed normal. This is different than the Ink Fountain Discoloration errors. Hopefully it comes across with the reduced file size to upload here. I wonder what extent it would have to be different to gather some interest from collectors/buyers. Probably yours is enough but not the one I am posting.   Edited by datadragon
07/14/2023 6:38 pm
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