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Before I re-mortgage the house for this large cent,  how about your thoughts? The coin is raw.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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From the Randall Hoard, I'm guessing.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow what a great die crack.
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N-10. R-1-. coinfrog is spot on. this is a hoard coin. the 1818 n-10 is the most common variety from that hoard and the most common coronet head to find uncirculated. the randall hoard was several kegs of uncirculated large cents that were found shortly after the civil war.
the stripes on this coin seem strange to me. I'm not sure whats going on there. could be toning. could be cleaning or damage of some sort. I cant tell for certain from the pictures.
they come nice and are plentiful so you can always find another one. problem examples are a hard sell because of that.
i would call this one MS details from what I can see but it may be nicer than that. eac net 35 (a cleaned coin cant grade higher than 35 in that grading system)
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02/01/2023 11:28 am
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I see an AU-58 harshly cleaned coin. Those for sure ain't roller marks.
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I agree that it has been harshly cleaned. How do you know that it's from the Randall Hoard? Does it have a certificate of authenticity or something?
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Most early coronet cents in mint state are from the Randall hoard. The 1818 N10 is one of the more typical. Even I own an MS example of this coin. No one can be sure but the odds are prohibitive that it is. Here's mine. http://goccf.com/t/368423&SearchTerms=1818,1cIN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
02/01/2023 4:41 pm
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I will be passing on this one I guess. Thanks All, Alpha33 out..........
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Pillar of the Community
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Good choice!
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How do you know that it's from the Randall Hoard? to expand on what numismatic student said - we cant actually know if this specific coin came from the randall haord however it is a safe assumption. across all of the non hoard varieties of 1818 cents there are ~30 total coins that grade a true mint state. n-2 and n-4 have zero known ms coins. there are more than 500 mint state 1818 n-10s in PCGS slabs alone. there are probably thousands of them out there. the incredibly small mint state survival in all other varieties combined with the known fact that 1818 n-10 was a large part of the hoard means that the coins are basically always treated as part of the hoard. if you could prove a provenance for a mint state 1818 n-10 that went back before the discovery of the hoard that coin would be worth a premium. a coin that could be proven to be from somewhere other than the hoard would be worth more money. |
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It's a shame about the cleaning because this is an early die state of the N10 shattered obverse die. Note that the stars in the obverse seem mostly to be fully split. Also the hair detail on Liberty is well struck up and finely detailed. If not for the cleaning it would be a high grade MS specimen but I suspect that this coin was heavily oxidized with spots and flyspecs, thus prompting someone to strip off the original patina.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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i have to agree with the cleaning, there are several areas on both sides indicating it. UNC details (cleaned) - darn shame  Edited by panzaldi
02/03/2023 10:08 am
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