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I always wanted to hunt for treasures that were lost and always checked out stories from past history such as train robberies, coach robberies, bank robberies blah blah blah were none was ever discovered or I'd say recovered. Allegedly, there was an enormous amount of Confederate gold that was stolen and never recovered. In 2018 in Pennsylvania a metal detectorist who had been hunting for a long time possibly discovered the area of where this Confederate gold stashed and located it. Now don't quote me on this, but I believe the metal detectorist had to pay $15,000 maybe in a permit in order to dig but once they were able to finally acquire the permit within a day or so I believe that the FBI showed up and tents were put up, white tents and no one could view, fly over etc ...and then within a week and a half the FBI was gone and there was a complete blackout in the media as to the outcome whether there was Confederate gold discovered, whether the detectorist were right or were wrong. NOW, a few days ago in the newspaper this appeared when I was actually discussing this topic with my uncle, what a coincidence.
"A metal detectorist is suing the FBI, claiming he alerted them to 7 tons of Civil War-era gold and they took it away in a secret overnight dig."
This is just a quip from the title of the article should you want to read the whole article all you have to Google it what I posted. just copy and paste it.
My opinion I believe the FBI took the gold. I really do.I believe they took the gold. Does anybody else follow these type of stories. Do you have an interesting story to tell a find that you made and maybe someone came along and confiscated it. I think the UK confiscates now maybe some people from the UK are on here and can elaborate, for I read where discoveries were being made for in covid and they made a new law I forget exactly what it was if they found so much they had to turn it over if it was more than three coins or something blah blah blah.
I would surely give them a few dollars so they can fight the federal government(but I'm broke like everybody else do to the economy LOL) because I really do believe they took it. The government will try and try to make it last as long as they can knowing they have no money because if I'm not mistaken that it took them a minute to scrounge up the surprising $15,000 permit fee they needed to get the permission to dig where they wanted to, and I think there was another fee after that which I think was surprising to them but don't quote me on this because it's been a minute since 2018 when I read the article. Anyway it's all quite interesting to be quite Frank
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Pillar of the Community
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heard about this as well; reminds me a bit of the Atocha treasure find.
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I watched a special on this I believe on the discovery channel. FBI took it.
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Bunk
I firmly believe that no government organization can keep a secret for 10 minutes. When they do a classified briefing to Congress, the briefer hasn't even left the capital before aids are spilling the beans.
If the FBI really found and seized the gold, there would be selfies on TikTok showing it off.
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I think the UK confiscates now maybe some people from the UK are on here and can elaborate, for I read where discoveries were being made for in covid and they made a new law I forget exactly what it was if they found so much they had to turn it over if it was more than three coins or something blah blah blah. In the UK, lost treasure has always belonged to the Crown. The exact definitions of "lost" and "treasure" have changed over the years, but as a general rule, the government is legally obliged to "reward" you with "fair value" of whatever it is you've found, if they decide you aren't allowed to keep it. They have an independent panel of valuers to determine what that reward should be. Unlike places such as Italy or Turkey, Britain is wealthy enough to be able to afford to pay actual market value to finders for their finds. English treasure laws have not been amended since the passing of the Treasure Act in 1996. There haven't been any "new laws" in this regard since then. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Thank you @ SAP
I had seen an article maybe last year where during covid people are making extraordinary fines in the UK and they were being confiscated if there was more than three items discovered like three coins is an example depending on era/year. Then you have articles that never tell you the entire story because everybody's trying to look for popularity or those point values or whatever they get for articles and news. If I should find it I will be more than glad to put it up here. Thank you for the info I appreciate it
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@BStruss3
Now that's funny
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@BStruss3
Don't you think if they found 7 to 9 tons of gold which I think is astronomical find cuz I don't recall how much of the gold from the Confederate was missing I'm going to have to look it back up again but that they wouldn't keep it quiet. There was media blackout once the permits were acquired and the FEDS popped in once the permits were paid for and the dig was permitted.
It's a gut feeling of mine that they really did find something on a personal level I have an innate instinct for this stuff which made me very good at my job. Now whether it was as much as they're claiming it was I don't think so but I do believe something was there.
And what you said I'm giggling sorry as I'm writing this is possibly true LOL I can't say why are things like that cuz I still have connections
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02/25/2023 10:47 am
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I had seen an article maybe last year where during covid people are making extraordinary fines in the UK and they were being confiscated if there was more than three items discovered like three coins is an example depending on era/year. Then you have articles that never tell you the entire story because everybody's trying to look for popularity or those point values or whatever they get for articles and news. If I should find it I will be more than glad to put it up here. Thank you for the info I appreciate it Yes, there was a story a couple of years ago about some people in Britain who found a giant hoard of 1000-year-old treasure, but refused to declare it. Yes, under those circumstances, people can get their treasure confiscated, and even serve time in jail. But there were no "new laws" here; the people doing this knew full well they were breaking the law in not reporting their find. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...easure-hoardApparently they were detecting on private land without permission when they found it, and didn't want to have to share the value of their find with the landowner (as would be required under the Treasure Act). People who break the Treasure Act in Britain really have no excuse; every detectorist knows the laws, and any finders of actual treasure are fairly rewarded with full market value, so there is very little cost or risk in obeying the law, while the risk is great and the penalties for breaking the law are quite high. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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