Sweden 1884 2 Ore "closed 4" -- 2nd Die

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KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 03/09/2009 11:17 pm For those who collect Sweden die varieties, apparently there are two dies for the 1884 "closed 4" date. The normal 4 is shown in the corner of the picture below, and the bottom date is a new coin found today. At first I thought the "closed 4" variety might simply be due to repunching which closed the digit in coin 1. However, since coin 2 is also a closed 4, I guessing that a specific "closed" punch was used on both dies. And with the second coin, it's pretty easy to compare the last 4 position to see 2 dies are involved. Report this Post to the Staff

EgCollector Pillar of the Community Egypt 3470 Posts	Posted 03/10/2009 06:00 am Very Interesting and informative, Thanks Kurt Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 03/10/2009 4:13 pm Thanks Amr--glad someone else appreciates my detailed approach Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 03/14/2009 5:51 pm The closed 4 appears to be a later die state of the open 4. You can still see a trace of where the opening would be, but the gap has filled in. The position is a cool find! The 2nd coin with the "near" 4 also looks to have slightly thinner date characters. =) Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 03/14/2009 9:29 pm You could be right--I can see that notch, but I'm still not sure it's not a damaged/different punch. These are after all, date punches which see a lot more use than hubs in die making. Look at the top of the 8s in the second date--that weakness is common for worn punches too. In the context of US coins, here's an 1882 IHC with a damaged punch: Report this Post to the Staff
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Sweden 1884 2 Ore "Closed 4" -- 2nd Die