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Constantius Gallus 351AD
mint Ancient Roman Coin Battle Horse
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Bronze AE2 21mm (5.23 grams) MINT : 351-354 A.D.
Reference: RIC VIII 81
D N CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, bare-headed, draped and
cuirassed bust right; behind bust, delta FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Exe: ALE - helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing fallen
horseman wearing Phrygian helmet.

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Blackbird. I'm going to ask the mods to move this. Slow down and learn your way around.
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Should I delete it and move it somewhere else?
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Constantius Ii. RIC Alexandria 72.
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Compare with one of my examples:-

Constantius II - AE2
Obv:- D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
FEL TEMP REPARATIO, soldier spearing fallen horseman left
Minted in Alexandria (G | // ALEA). 15th March A.D. 351 - 6th November A.D. 355
RIC VIII Alexandria 72. Cohen 46, LRBC 2836.

24.13 mm

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maridvnvm Do you have some information about this version?
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Thaty looks very much like the following coin.

Constantius II
Obv:- D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right, A behind bust
Rev:- FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground at right. Horseman is seated on the ground reaching towards emperor (type FH1).
Minted in Thessalonica (A | _ //TSD).
Reference:- RIC VIII Thessalonica 129

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You are right and the two versions are rare thank you for sharing this valuable information
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They are not that scarce. I have had a few of each. The ones above are a selection of ones I have had.
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Perhaps, but the museum's catalogue of the 1892 edition says otherwise.
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A museum catalogue from 1892 is way out of date. Tens of thousands of ancient coins have been found since then using metal detectors. The British Museum has info about hoards found. Collectors often use Roman Imperial Coinage series to reference, published by Spink and Sons 1960s to 1990s but these are also out of date in regards to rarity for some types. Your Constantius II coins are not rare according to Roman Imperial Coinage (RIC) volume VIII.

You can search to identify coins on acsearch.info, Vcoins.com and other places. If there is a library in your area, maybe they have more up to date reference books.

Some like to use sold listings on ebay. If you have access to ebay, use the advanced search page, type in a coin, emperor name, reverse design, click the sold box and it will show you if any have sold recently and for how much. For example, type Constantius II fallen horseman and you will see how much they are selling for.

The condition of a coin is important. A worn low grade coin will not be worth nearly as much as a high grade coin.
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The older catalogs and references had very limited access to what they could include in order to determine scarcity. Often they only had access to the major museum collections etc. Since then many hoards have been found and there has been a lot more access to certain geographical areas such as the Balkans. Coins that were determined as potentially unique are the time e.g. rated as R5 in RIC terms that are now commonplace.

There are now much more in depth catalogs that have performed a much more detailed analysis per type. I will illustrate what I mean with a few examples.

Pierre Bastien has publishes several volumes detailing analysis on the mint of Lugdunum.

This coin RIC VII Lugdunum 3, was rated Scarce in RIC. It is also Bastien volume XI 540 where 155 examples cited, which would align with a Common or even Very Common type
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This coin is RIC VII Lugdunum 2 rated R1 by RIC. Bastien volume XI 538 where 6 examples are cited, which would indicate that it is indeed relatively rare.
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This coin is RIC VII Lugdunum 4 is rated R1 by RIC. Bastien XI 541 where 54 examples are cited. This would make it Common.
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Thank you, my friends, for this valuable information, but believe me, the piece is not worn, it only needs to be cleaned, and this worn condition that you see proves its originality and oldness, and I want to share this Silver piece with you and tell me what you think.

Roman Provincial, Egypt-Alexandria, Vespasian, AR
Tetradrachm, 69/70 (Year 2)
AVTOK KAIΣ ΣEBA OVEΣΠAΣIANOV
Laureate head right, L B in right field
(No legend)
Nike flying left, wreath upward in right hand, palm in left over
shoulder
23mm x 25mm, 13.44g
Emmett 205 (1); Milne 393


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