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1983 Penny Errors With Cud Looking For Advice

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 Posted 03/18/2023  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not understand why all want PCGS with so high price? ANACS, NCG or ICG will do same job precisely and yours cost will be less. Do Not forgot that any collector do not buy the slab, they buy the coin and for them the slab it is if accurate just an approval of theirs own believes.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sil, if you are selling, PCGS slabbed coins pay more, simple as that...
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I'm not at all trying to grade you coin, as your images aren't clear enough for that. Just noting what could be a reasonable outcome from the grading process, and what buyers would be looking at if you sold it raw and they were thinking about grading it. I have no idea if it would go details or grade straight, but I have looked at other examples of this die error and not seen a big gash in Lincoln's head on them, so the assumption must be damage. Maybe it is or isn't, but my goal is to educate about the process, not make determinations about your coin specifically and was just using that gash as an example of something I can see on the coin. Deciding whether a coin might go details grade is best left to the person holding the coin, as photos are tough to use for making that call, and even then it's still a guess as to what PCGS will call it. As I said before, the person who owns it when it is sent in to PCGS takes all the risk, that it may grade straight and high or low and details. It's why a lot of people sell coins raw and take the best they can get rather than take the risk of investing big money in grading a coin and ending up losing out in the end. I've had both happen to me, where I've sent in coins that lost so much in value due to a details grade that I lost a lot of money on them, as well as coins that graded above my expectations and were in the end worth a ton more than I thought they would be. Just letting you know the process and possible results so you can make informed decisions.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to see this post and that members realized there is a counter clash on it.

For whatever its worth, I remember an auction 4-5 years ago (Texas Unclaimed Property on ebay I think) that had two of these and one cclt2-1c-1983-01 http://www.maddieclashes.com/cclt2-1c-1983-01/ in the same lot.

The Breen numbers were used on the old ANACS holders (soap bar holders) instead of the more familiar Counterclash #'s from maddieclashes.

I mention this because using the Breen Numbers in searches might get some auction results on this or other coins.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jblau190 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has anyone used ANACS grading service? Or anyone have any opinions/feelings about their service? Seens like for $20 I can get a coin graded in like 15 days I believe (plus shipping). I'm considering using them unless anyone knowledgeable here gives me information that I shouldn't use them for amy reason. Thanks!
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 Posted 03/25/2023  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allcoinsaregood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find congrats, I search 1983's for Die Cracks. I have several with multible Die Cracks but never found one like yours!
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I'm not an expert on 3rd party grading. The only one I've used is ANACS, and I was satisfied with them. But as Makecents said above PCGS has a higher dollar return when you sell.
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ANACS is a great company and does very good work. I've sent them a lot of coins, but generally only coins with minor varieties that PCGS won't put on the label. They just don't resell very well so putting less in up front can mean getting a lot less when selling them later. They are also pretty tough graders and you may find things coming back a step lower than you expected, however, they are less quick to "details" a coin and instead will sometimes still grade a coin straight but just lower the grade a notch. This can be useful for coins with some light damage that PCGS would details, while with ANACS you still get a straight grade just a lower one.
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