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1918-D WLH PCGS MS-63 Number Not On File But It's On Ebay

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 Posted 03/19/2023  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a potential counterfeit slab.
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I tried entering the number in the PCGS verification site, but the / would clear everything to that point.
The seller (buymuseumcollections) has some very pricey coins.
Here is the coin, in case the auction disappears.
1918-D-WLH-PCGS-MS-63-Number-Not-On-File-But-It's-On-Ebay
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Invalid cert number on PCGS verify
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I tried other PCGS verifications and PCGS' website is having a hard time with them right now. I tried a cert # that I know to be good and get: "We're sorry, we are unable to verify at this time. Please try again after a few minutes."

I will say this: I sold a 1918-D walker in PCGS MS63 on GreatCollections in March of 2021 and, all-in, it cost the buyer $2,025 plus shipping. So, I'm not sure who's paying $11,500 for this coin. The coin pictured does appear to be really well struck for an early branch-mint walker. Having said that, it's an odd looking beast, with kind of a granular frost to it - although maybe that's a factor of the photographer.

https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...3-from-photo
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For PCGS cert lookup, all you need are the numbers after the "/". For this one: reddish bar with "not found...". I think the coin was exposed to Baking Soda
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Several features of the listing turned me off.
1. All the colors, particularly of the text.
2. All the fancy fonts.
3. AND PARTICULARLY, all the references to various pricing guides being NOT an accurate evaluation.

I use the Greysheet and that coin is valued at $2400.
Because of the nature of the Greysheet values, if I were to bid/buy that coin I would max out at Greysheet plus 20%/30%
That means I would be willing to pay in the range of $2880 to $3120.
The listed buying price is pure hype.
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Knew it was a fake slab as soon as I saw it.
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Message I'm getting;
"We're sorry, that certification number was not found. Please double check the number and try again."
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