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1913-S Buffalo Type 2 Clashed Dies

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Hi every-one, I recently aquired 3 1913-s type 2 Buffalo nickels in VF to XF condiition. When I got them I looked them over carefully like I do all my coins. All three appear to have clashed dies of varying degrees- one has a very weak clashing with no letters from Unum, one has a full U and half of and half of an N I think, then third is very pronounced with what appears to be another letter below the the top word. Just wondering how rar these are? I have not had many 13-s's to look at and cherry pickers doesn't list them. Also does anyone have an over-lay so I can figure out just what letters are coming through the obverse? I havn't been able to get good pictures yet, but will post if I get some. Thanks for all your help !
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here are some p

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It has to be from E PLURIBUS UNUM.
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Hi,

That is from a die clash. I am not sure what they market them as now, but they used to be called "lettered" chins. They do sell for a premium over the normal value but I can't price these as it's been awhile since I've had anything to do with one:-)

Nice coin(s) though!

Thanks,
Bill
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See if this helps?
1913-S-Buffalo-Type-2-Clashed-Dies
I couldn't get a decent overlay as proof images work best, but I didn't have one to use this time. So I placed the dies in the position they would be in during striking and enhanced the area affected and the polish lines from Roach's image.
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Thanks for the overlay-- that helps tremendously! So the partial letter below must be the E . Very cool! Upon further research on the Heritage website I found several 1913-s's with some clashing evident so I don't know that it is particularly rare. I will be sending all three to NGC, I didn't see anything on their population data about die clashes. Only ANACS has any in their pops. Thanks for your help! Roach
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nice one
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It is probably a common area as the third bay on Lincoln cents that show the shoulder on Memorial reverses. Common! I wouldn't waste the money having it slabbed. Sometimes doing this is like putting a $200 swimsuit on a $2 body. You know what it is and probably even the third party graders would miss it unless you mentioned it.
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Coop,
it may be a common clash but that isn't a common $2 nickel- it is a 1913-S T2 which would be $4-500 in VF/EF
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Well that's a different story. I figured they were in the same ball park as the other Nickels from that time period. So I would probably have it slabbed if it is that pricey. I only have two slabs as the price was right, but I would never pay extra because it is slabbed. To me that is un-necessary. But others might do that.
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