Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Shop CCF Members on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1913-D Lincoln Wheat Cent

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 607Next Topic  
Valued Member
Hordfest's Avatar
United States
208 Posts
 Posted 05/31/2023  10:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hordfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Another cent for you guys. I'm torn vetween VF and XF. There is quite the large price jump for this particular cent between VF20 and XF40 (6x according to graysheet) so I want to make sure I get it right! Thanks!


1913-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent
1913-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent
Pillar of the Community
cointagous's Avatar
United States
1143 Posts
 Posted 05/31/2023  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is VF-30 noting the moderate wear on Lincoln and the stalk lines being flat and starting to blend. I pulled my photograde book for help reading what was required for the grade.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
HondoB's Avatar
United States
24906 Posts
 Posted 05/31/2023  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's quite battered - eye appeal is just not there.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
Valued Member
Hordfest's Avatar
United States
208 Posts
 Posted 05/31/2023  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hordfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

It's quite battered - eye appeal is just not there.


BTsfq7riLb8


In PCGS's own words in their intro to circulated grading, eye appeal is only 15% of a circulated coins grade and usually serves only to bump coins around within a particular grade, a.k.a. XF40 vs. XF45, or VF20 vs. VF25. ANA webinars about grading say the same thing. Here are the standards for ANA VF and EF grades. These are what I'm using personally mixing the descriptions along with the photograde app.

Also apologies if this comes off as rude, I'm more just confused because I hear eye appeal mentioned a lot but I thought eye appeal didn't factor in that much for circulated so I'm surprised to hear it mentioned so often from various folks.

VF-20 "Typical"
Obverse: Head shows considerable flatness. Nearly all the details still show in hair and on the face. Ear and bow tie are worn but
bold.
Reverse: Lines in wheat stalks are worn flat and show very few details.

VF-30 "Choice"
Obverse: There are small flat spots of wear on cheek and jaw. Hair still shows details. Ear and bow tie are slightly worn but show
clearly.
Reverse: Lines in wheat stalks are lightly worn but fully detailed.

EF-40 "Typical"
Obverse: Wear shows on the hair above ear, on the cheek, and on the jaw.
Reverse: High points of the wheat stalks are worn, but each line is clearly defined.
Surface: Traces of the mint luster may show.

EF-45 "Choice"
Obverse: Slight wear shows on the hair above ear, on the cheek, and on the jaw.
Reverse: High points of the wheat stalks are lightly worn, but each line is clearly defined.
Surface: Some of the mint luster may show.
Edited by Hordfest
05/31/2023 11:43 pm
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
panzaldi's Avatar
United States
18630 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm calling this one VF details (damaged). I've seen many of these that have so many marks on the devices and fields like this that did not grade straight. if this coin was cleaned you would see every one of them
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at VF-35 straight. Scattered marks are small and well toned-in.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19930 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious signs of cleaning, still a good coin but would get details at any TPG.

VF-25
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious signs of cleaning?
Valued Member
Hordfest's Avatar
United States
208 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hordfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Obvious signs of cleaning, still a good coin but would get details at any TPG


It has been soaked in acetone. It's possible the Acetone lifted enough dirt to make it look unevenly toned but it definitely doesn't/didn't look cleaned to me
Moderator
Learn More...
Dearborn's Avatar
United States
94728 Posts
 Posted 06/01/2023  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it was not 'cleaned' in the traditional sense, just handled quite often and the patina was rubbed down.
Bedrock of the Community
IndianGoldEagle's Avatar
United States
36514 Posts
 Posted 06/12/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-35 straight grade.
  Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 607Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.41 seconds to rattle this change. Forums