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Searching For A Nice Trade Dollar

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Ok, so I'm hunting for a decent Trade dollar. I only want one nice example. I've been doing some due diligence, reading and looking.

I'm thinking I should go with a PCGS or a NGC one, for piece of mind authentication reasons. A cleaned details one would be ok if it looked good still, like a Unc Details grade from NGC.

One or two chop marks would be ok.

Am I correct NGC automatically gives a Details grade if there is a chop mark? This would be okay for me.

Does PCGS withhold the Details grade for a specimen with a chop mark? I read they did.

Seems to me if a specimen has a chop mark, then it's been used in commerce, thus making it circulated. Correct or not?

Your comments/opinions while I continue my hunt appreciated.
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Just curious, why not ANACS?
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Yes, NGC and ANACS generally give chop marks a Details grade and PCGS does not, although I just found an NGC MS62 that was straight-graded. https://coins.ha.com/itm/trade-doll...nail-071515. You have an interesting point - why are chop marked coins given MS grades? They're obviously not "mint state." I suppose the answer is because that's what they do. I think you are correct to get one that is authenticated since there are so many counterfeits of these.
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ANACS would be fine also. I should have included them in my OP.
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I wanted chopmarks as proof that the coin was used for its intended purpose. The more chopmarks the better. Larry Briggs found this 1875-CC for me. He graded it AU, which is the appearance of the few unchopped areas.

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ebay is a good start, you can search graded only. once you find a few nice ones, do a search of already sold coins to get an idea of a selling value.
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I wanted chopmarks as proof that the coin was used for its intended purpose.
Interesting example.
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The more chopmarks the better.
I am glad you like them!

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ebay is my primary search location with those search criteria.

thq - that is a very interesting dollar, but distracts from the dollar design.
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The merchants didn't have any respect for the design. But they respected the coin, and they circulated like this for decades. The cc is barely visible but it is there. Most of the chops are on the reverse, cupping the coin slightly and causing a lot of ugly flattening on the obverse. Who knows what was used to back it for chopping.

It would be interesting to have a translation of the chops.
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I read somewhere, I think here on CCF, that might be possible but difficult and time consuming.

I had done a Trade dollar search in the Search box.
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