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Medal Of Merit / Republican Presidential Task Force Medal Shattered Die

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Courtesy of Ken Potter - This is the actual coining die that was used to strike the Medal Of Merit / Republican Presidential Task Force medal that was delivered to honorees during the Bush Sr. administration in the early 1990's. The "Republican Presidential Task Force" was founded by President Ronald Reagan during his administration and continues today. The medals struck from this die can occasionally be found on ebay.

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This die is unique in that after shattering it still survives well over a decade after-the-fact! This is a BIG die that struck medals that were 2" in diameter! The medals were struck in bronze and then gold plated and delivered in a velvet case. You can see the bronze that adhered to the sandblasted areas of the die (the White House and lettering). All sandblasted dies that strike bronze pick up this coloration in the devises and it makes the die look even more interesting as it give it color contrast, though it is a pain for the mints to strike.

This die came into my possession from an old-world engraver that cuts dies for me. One day he was describing how he was cleaning up his work area that contained many old dies that were damaged or otherwise unusable. I laughed, joking that he had "messed up" so many dies that they cluttered his space. He then told me they were not "his" screw ups -- but dies that had been damaged during use that had been sent to him by various Mints, either to see if they could be repaired or as a sample of what they wanted cut for a new replacement die. I'm glad I got some decent scans before selling it.

I guess you all know this is a Shattered Die!
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Wow, bobby - definitely a catastrophic failure! Thank you for sharing.
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I've only ever had one die made, in 2008, and it's within arm's reach at this very moment.

I've been thinking about having another "private issue" struck, but it seems that there is no one uniform method of die-setting, so I wouldn't necessarily be able to go to a die-sinker, have dies made, and then shop around for the best deal on having pieces struck from those dies. Same applies to re-using my existing die (although what I'm thinking about doing now would be a different size and motif, so would require all new dies). On the other hand, private mints I have inquired of often want the die to be their property, which I don't like.

It's a conundrum.

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"I've only ever had one die made, in 2008, and it's within arm's reach at this very moment.

I've been thinking about having another "private issue" struck, but it seems that there is no one uniform method of die-setting, so I wouldn't necessarily be able to go to a die-sinker, have dies made, and then shop around for the best deal on having pieces struck from those dies. Same applies to re-using my existing die (although what I'm thinking about doing now would be a different size and motif, so would require all new dies). On the other hand, private mints I have inquired of often want the die to be their property, which I don't like.

It's a conundrum."


Use Columbia style dies only. A high percentage of private Mints use them and they can be moved around. Make sure all your dies are the same diameter. I have them lathed to 1.52" and stick with it but I have many older dies that are 1.53 etc. I still slap them together and don't worry about it.

Good Luck!

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The numismatic term "shattered die" is normally applied to the actual coins or medals struck from the die as it semi-disintegrated, rather than to the dies themselves - though in this case, since the old disintegrated die was preserved, it's certainly appropriate.

Which makes me wonder two follow-up questions:

1. Do any of the actual medals struck with this die show any die cracks that line up with the damage on this die, as harbingers of its imminent destruction?

2. Was another replacement die made to finish medal production? If so, are there any obvious differences in design, apart from the lack of die cracks? I'm thinking the "early 1990s" would have pre-dated high-tech CAD-made dies the Mint probably uses for medals these days, so any such duplicate die is likely to have many minor differences visible on the resultant medals.
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 Posted 06/30/2023  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cdncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting item. I wonder what caused this die to shatter?
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