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1935 Florin Choice Unc

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 Posted 07/02/2023  04:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Is this a fair grading? Please explain.
As I peer through the muck , it seems to have minimal wear,only light scratches and no rim knocks.
No lustre though.
As a novice ,is the muck irrelevant?
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 Posted 07/02/2023  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impossible to confirm if a fair grading or not (especially the obverse) from the pics presented.
The rather unsightly patina could be hiding some (hopefully very minor) 'nasties'.
For this reason, I would very much prefer to examine this slabbed coin in hand, with the stated grade hidden from my view.

Without that information, I am unable to comment regarding the question "Is this a fair grading?"

I much prefer silver coins in mid and higher MS grades to have an obvious lustre, and as close to blast white as possible
That is the condition in which they emerged from the coining press.
I also find blast white silver coins much easier to grade from screen shots.
Coins with a heavy patina can be much harder to grade, especially from screen shots, and especially so if they are slabbed.
You just have to blindly accept the grading.

So the ball is back in the OP's court unfortunately, despite respectfully asking for an opinion.
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Unless you're asking academically (either because you're trying to develop your own grading prowess, or because you're simply curious), it doesn't matter. The grade is the grade, and without seeing it in person you won't really be able to determine anything.
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From what I can see, it appears that PCGS was a bit generous with their grade. But grade aside, it's not an especially attractive coin IMHO.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 07/02/2023  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serenitystan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a shocker. Over graded + ridiculously overpriced. The reverse looks OK but the obverse has to many hairlines. Grade should be Genuine Hairlines..
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 Posted 07/03/2023  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you'll find that most of those "hairlines" are scratches on the slab, not on the coin itself. The PCGS Trueview photo of this coin doesn't show them.

The "muck" is just tarnish - there's no physical debris attached. The pattern of the tarnish - particularly the sharp lines between tarnished and not-tarnished areas - makes it "look cleaned", even though it's probably not an actual old cleaning that's the cause.
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I agree:-
much easier to grade from PCGS Trueview photos.
Head detail of emu and Kangaroo, emu's feathers all intact.,
King's mustache beard and crown band detail is all there, some dark toning on those high points.

No obvious dings and scratches to be seen under magnification.

Lustre completely obscured by the rather patchy patina, but that doesn't affect the grade.
Remember:- Even an attractive patina is a very mild form of surface corrosion.
Up to the buyer if is acceptable or not.
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 Posted 07/06/2023  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for your responses, the PCGS Trueview photos are much better than the ones put up on ebay.
Not interested in buying this coin , just trying to learn more about grading coins.

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Lustre completely obscured by the rather patchy patina, but that doesn't affect the grade.
Remember:- Even an attractive patina is a very mild form of surface corrosion.

Gee, I would have thought it would have detracted from the coin grading.
More research on my behalf is obviously needed.
It is only through sites like this and the generosity of knowledgeable members that are willing to contribute their wisdom ,that others can learn more about coins.
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