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Valued Member
Canada
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I plan on buying this today it looks legit from what I can tell the seller doesn't seem like the type of person who is planning on scamming anyone I was planning on bringing a magnet and my scale to weigh this but is there any other things I could do to identify this coin.. These are the only pics I have so far Any input is appreciated    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
807 Posts |
The nice thing about gold is, it's denser than practically any other metal, bar platinum (which was used in the 19th century to counterfeit gold coins), tungsten, or uranium, and the latter two are not amenable to coining. So if it's the right weight (outside of any holder) and dimensions, it's probably genuine. People used to carry little scales with slots cut in them, to ascertain weight and dimensions. Most dates of British sovereigns and half-sovereigns are common enough, that if the piece is gold, it's probably genuine.
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Valued Member
 Canada
70 Posts |
Any idea of what it should actually weigh is it 3.9 grams it 3.6 grams
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Moderator
 United States
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It should weigh 3.99 grams
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Please clarify the weight and advise if your scale weighs to two or more decimal points.
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Valued Member
Canada
70 Posts |
I haven't actually got the coin yet CoinFrog but I'm going to uy it today and I plan on testing a magnet on it and weighing it to determine if I believe it's real
The seller is pretty nice and understands I want to check it out before I buy it and even went as far as saying if it turns out not to be real I can return it to him
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Valued Member
United States
311 Posts |
I don't know if all sovereigns should look the same but just doing a cursory comparison with some ebay offerings, 1) should there be designer initials to the right of the date? and 2) and doesn't the riders left foot extend past the first rib of the dragon wing? A promise of return is nice but possession is 9/10ths the law. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The reverse looks molded not struck. The dentilation looks bad, and is missing in places. There is no fine detail on St. George's head or on the dragon. It might be bad photos, but it looks like a poor cast copy.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
07/06/2023 10:51 am
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Valued Member
Canada
70 Posts |
I did purchase it
It weighs 4 grams
Not attracted to a magnet and that's about as much identification I could do, I am planning on taking it to a jewelry for more confirmation
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Valued Member
Canada
70 Posts |
Here's an updated picture and the weight on my scale I do know it looks more worn on one side then the other I don't know I'm hoping I didn't get scammed but I'm guessing a jewelery store would be the only way to tell now    |
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Portugal
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Weight is good, scale may be a little off by +0.01 or 02. Half sovereigns seem weakly struck compared to sovereigns. Little detail in the tail, st George's or horse heads is normal. Flat legs is very common. And then this is worn?
I guess real, on first sight but cannot tell for sure with the detail shown. There are very good fakes.
Two things that seem a little wrong to me. Complete lack of the helmet relief in st. George's head. It is not just wear or a bad strike in st George's head. It should be better because the reverse is. And the concave-like ground line above the date, it should have a dip down over the 0. The first can be because the coin was damaged, the last may be there but not show well in the photo?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, weight suggests this is good.
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Valued Member
Canada
70 Posts |
Thanks for the help guys I too am stumbled and have mixed feelings about this going to go get it checked tommorow,
I agree with the relief of the helmet and head it is almost non existent but the weight was good when I was buying it and it didn't stick to a magnet so I figured it was good that I didn't get to examine it that closely
Fingers crossed I will keep you guys updated!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
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Valued Member
Canada
70 Posts |
Here's an update on this coin So it comes up as 20 Carats which is unusual for a sovereign the gold dealer basically told me it's not fake but its not what you usually expect from a sovereign as he has never seen one under 21cts I'm just returning it to the original seller he was nice enough to understand everything but I thought I would let you guys know and thank you again for your help guys !  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When in doubt, cast it out. Personally I would take it to a coin dealer and not a jeweler. Appears real to me and I collect Sovereigns.
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Posted 07/04/2023 11:10 am
