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What's The Diefference Between Private And Sovereign Coins?

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 Posted 07/07/2023  01:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add starboom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

Just starting out in precious metals. Trying to understand the difference between sovereign coins like the American Eagle or Canadian Maples and private mint coins/bars. For ex. A 1oz Canadian Maple is $30.22 while the private mint coin is 26.79.

So which one is better in terms of investment in metal. which one will has a better chance of appreciation in value?

Similar question for gold.
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 Posted 07/07/2023  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sovereign usually means they are issued by a governement (with the guarantee of face value by that government) whereas private means they were struck by a business.

I will let someone else comment on investment value and chance for appreciation.

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Welcome to CCF. I do not consider silver or gold as an investment though they have gradually gone up over the years, their spot prices can slam down and stay down for a while. Once in a while they sky rocket up for a brief period. Silver spot prices are known to be manipulated by some of the major bank traders. JP Morgan was recently fined millions of dollars for it. For me silver and gold are protection against inflation, protection against a fiat dollar. It's real money IMO.

You'll get different opinions if it's best to buy sovereign government minted or generic private mint silver/gold. I think a lot of people have some of both. The best strategy is to buy when the dealers have sales. Compare prices between the dealers. Watch for sales and buy the lowest premiums you can. To avoid fakes buy mostly from well known dealers who have been in business for a long time or from your local coin store. Some of the dealers I like are SD Bullion, Liberty Coin, Hero Bullion, Bullion Exchanges, APMEX, etc. A few online dealers like JM Bullion show their "buy back" prices, what they will pay if you want to sell.

There are some good and not so good YouTube channels you can watch and learn. Two of my favorite channels are Silver Seeker and Yankee Stacking. They discuss prices, differences between sovereign and generic, buying bars or rounds, ways to test silver, avoid fakes, etc.
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The "sovereign" bullion items have two advantages:

- They are legally "coins"; they have a legal tender face value, and have inherent demand from "coin collectors", many of whom require (or at least strongly prefer) the "coin" label on a bullion item before they will consider collecting them;
- A sovereign government is putting its own reputation on the line when it makes a bullion coin. You can therefore be reasonably reasssured that the coins (assuming they are genuine) will be of the weight and fineness proclaimed on the coin. A private bullion-making company has more incentive to lie (use slightly diluted gold and/or slightly lower weight), and less incentive to tell the truth.

These two factors usually combine to create a considerable premium above bullion value for coins.

Of course, as the Chinese found out a couple of years ago, even the government-owned mints can be tempted to lie about their metal purity. Perth Mint gold doping scandal.
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