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 Posted 03/25/2006  04:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was just curious what everyone here thinks, whether they like certified coins or raw coins and do you think that is the main difference between some one who just really loves collecting or wether they are an Investment minded collector. my self I like raw coins except of course any big purchases. (key dates etc.)
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 Posted 03/25/2006  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make mine raw.

Slabbing hasn't taken hold here in Australia. I've only ever seen one slabbed coin, and that was a Canadian sovereign bought in the US that a coin club member had on show at a club meeting. There is one home-grown slabbing company (ACGS, I think it's called) but I've never seen any dealers around here selling their stuff.

Slabs are a definite detraction for me when purchasing coins from the US. One of the advantages coins have over some other collectables (such as seashells, bottles or antique furniture) is that they're small and easy to store; for me, slabs are neither. If I acquired a slabbed coin, I'd want to crack it out, and I understand that's not the easiest thing to do.

I can understand some collectors and especially investors seeking some sort of certainty and uniform standard in what they buy, and slabs are the best thing around to offer that. It's just not for me.
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 Posted 03/25/2006  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CommonCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are advanced enough in the hobby and you feel good about your ability to grade coins and detect altered toning/surfaces then you shouldn't be limited to buying just slabbed coins. On the same note a slabbed coin shouldn't detract you unless you're paying too much for the service; you can always crack them out. One nice thing about slabs, is that they offer a degree of protection while you own the coin, and may make the coin slightly more liquid able when it comes time to sell. (If they are slabbed by a reputable TPGS) Recently at a larger show in Minneapolis, I saw allot of coins floating around in lower tiered holders. The people with these coins were having a hard time selling them, as most of the dealers including me passed on them.
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 Posted 03/25/2006  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Raw. There's nothing like the thrill of the chase. In any event, the stuff I buy isn't valuable enough to slab - it'd kill my profit margin.
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 Posted 03/25/2006  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add demonboy279 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I go for raw coins but it dont hurt to have a nice slabbed coin every now n then. I prefer them raw though do to the fact I like to look at my coin not at the plastic and if the slab gets a scratch it makes it harder to enjoy the pure beauty of the coin :)
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 Posted 03/25/2006  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I prefer a raw coin fit beter in my albums, But on the other hand if it is a high value key date coin which I don't have then I think I would prefer it to be slab by one of the top 4. Just so I know that it is not a conterfit.
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I only buy slabbed coins, the reason is because I am still learning how to grade and the fact that I do most of my purchases online. You cant realy tell what the coin actually looks like in a picture so slabbed coins just seem to be the best thing for me as long as its one of the top3 slabs. I usually will not buy anything not in a NGC,PCGS or ANACS slab for the same reason of my grading skills and most of the other slabs companies coins are overgraded and I have a hard time telling which ones are overgraded by pictures. Of course I usually crossover any ANACS coins I buy for no other reason but because I try to compete in the registry on collectors society and they only allow PCGS and NGC coins in there at the moment. That is if the coin is something I needed to fill a slot, if its just a coin I got a good deal on and do not need it I will just leave it in the ANACS slab
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 Posted 03/25/2006  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by scoutjim99
I was just curious what everyone here thinks

scoutjim, you would do well to listen to what CommonCents has to say on this subject. He's giving you the streight scoop!
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 Posted 03/25/2006  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have mixed feelings on the subject. It is much cheaper to buy "raw" if you will, but if you are not good at "grading" or "detecting whether coin(s) has been cleaned or whizzed" or "tampered" with, then slabbed by one of the top 3 TPGs is the way to go.
Early on in my quest to collect $20 Gold Saints, I got burnt thrice. 2 were cleaned and one was severely whizzed, which shocked the hell outa me when ngc & pcgs returned them in a BB. Needless to say, nowadays before I bid on a "raw" coin I ask, "Has this coin ever been cleaned AND/OR whizzed? Depending on answer will determine my next move.
Now if it is slabbed by say NGC, PCGS, ANACS & even some ICG's you can "assume" with high certainty that these coins were not "tampered" with--EVEN that is no guarantee, BUT as long as it stays in the slab you can assume, plus its guaranteed by slabber. So there, which do I preferr you ask? I do and have done both. Initially I started out raw, but as I got burnt, I leaned more to slabs--EVEN so, I have purchased both--And continue to buy raw and slab as I see fit. Of course I have now taught myself "How to detect cleaned coins, Althought I can tell ya, I am now dam good at detecting "whizzed" coins---hehe--
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 Posted 03/25/2006  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dgoose50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reason for the popularity of the slabbed coins isdue to the dishonesty of coin dealers in the first place.B.S.[Before slabs] the coin dealers used to routinely sell Ms 60 dollars which were sliders and many a man has been burned buying AU coins at unc prices!Later they might be told[by the same dealer]that they were not unc when he didn't remember the earlier sale to the hapless customer.I applaud slabs because it gives the hobby more credence!!!
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Raw but only because I mostly collect military tokens that are not expensive enough for anyone to counterfeit and not popular enough for TPGs to pollute with their grading. If I were to start collecting the more expensive coins again I would probably buy ANACS slabs from the start for the authentication. I don't have a lot of confidence in collectors, including myself, authenticating coins. I'd rather just pay the extra bucks for the peace of mind. If TPG's bought back authentication *only* certificates--(I have no need or desire for their grading opinions) I'd probably start collecting coins again. But they probably won't and I'll probably hate slabs for the rest of my life.

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 Posted 03/25/2006  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never seen a slabbed coin for real.
But I like the coins raw. If I knew it wouldn't hurt, I'd like to hold every silver proof in my hands, but I keep them in airtites.
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 Posted 03/28/2006  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting thoughts on the subject . I do feel confident about my grading ability and knowledge. but see thats the problem for me any way iam so spread out that no matter how much I do know there is ten times more yet to learn. I prefer raw as well because I look at it with a loop, deepending on what it is see if there is a cart wheel, or DD so on and so forth. I actuall dont trust the grading companies either.
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 Posted 03/28/2006  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
also if any of you ever collected sports card's you saw what happen to the market after Dr Beckett stepped in and the card grading companies.
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