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1947 Jefferson Nickel

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weight is 5.21 grams. I think henning nickles are around 5.4 g. I weigh nickels that are potential henning nickels based on year and mint, JIC. nickels are 'supposed' to be 5.00 grams, and most are very close to that. on the coin in question, there in not a huge glob or even a small glob of whatever would cause a coin's weight to go up (it's pretty clean). and there is no telltale chip on the 'R'. so question is, is this sort of discrepancy normal?


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It's probably still within Mint tolerances. It's only a little bit overweight. Can we get some pictures?
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yeah, i'll get you some. it pretty much just looks like a 1947 nickel...
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I forget the exact mint tolerance for nickels, but 5.21 sounds a bit above what I would expect is allowed. That said, it's quite a bit lower than the 5.4 that henning nickels usually weigh, so a minor rolled thick planchet error seems like the more likely assumption in the absence of the notch, die crack, or a chemical analysis of the alloy.
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I don't believe this is a Hennng nickel.
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Check out this thread about another 1947 Henning nickel candidate.

http://goccf.com/t/346086#2977150

The guy who is an expert and collects them says the 1947 Henning has a mass of 5.3g and there is a '47 version without a looped R. That is confirmed on ErrorRef.com. Mike goes so far as to say the die wasn't damaged in 1947 around the R. It seems the right way to identify the Henning includes the die dot to the left of the Monticello dome.

https://www.error-ref.com/henning-c...feit-nickel/

I will say, the nickel above does look pretty well struck compared to the published Henning nickel examples. Although the reverse does have a strange 2 o'clock to 8 o'clock grain pattern like die polishing that seems odd for a nickel.
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I will say, the nickel above does look pretty well struck compared to the published Henning nickel examples. Although the reverse does have a strange 2 o'clock to 8 o'clock grain pattern like die polishing that seems odd for a nickel.


yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. it's pretty well struck and the hennings are generally poorly struck.
the pattern you see is pretty common on my older nickels. it seems like a planchet problem rather than a die problem. kind of hard to tell from the pics though. I do see it on a lot of older ('39-'50ish) nickels.

the only indication that it might be a henning was the weight, which would be slightly higher still at minting.
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Well, according to the ErrorRef article, what you need to check for is that die dot above Monticello. The mangled R isn't a reliable indicator for that year, and your mass is in the ballpark.
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