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1983-P Quarter Off-Center Missing Reeded Edge

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Just got this off-center quarter and was surprised by the missing reeded edge. Is this typical of off-center quarters? Where did the reeded edge go?

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Very nice Off Center strike! I have no idea about your question. I'll be waiting to hear from the others.
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@cap, can you please give us the diameter of this quarter? I'm thinking it may be broadstruck, in which case the collar that creates the reeding was not in place.
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Very cool!
Curious about broadstrike vs. off-center can it be both?

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When a planchet is poorly centered and then struck out of collar, it ends up as either an off-center strike or an uncentered broadstrike. To qualify as an uncentered broadstrike, the design must be fully present on both faces. If the design is cut off at the edge on one or both faces, it is an off-center strike.


So even if struck out of collar, would the OP's coin technically be considered an off-center strike since it appears to be missing some design elements?

Just curious and trying to use site references and knowledge of others here to learn. Thank you.
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with the question being couched, this will be an Off Center Strike given the restraints on the categories descriptions you quoted fro E.R. But now the question of "No Reeded Edge" a misshape with the collar? broadstrike /off-center combined?
Very interesting indeed.
Could you please give us more edge photos ?
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Look like an uncentered broadstrike.
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Very nice example, congrats!
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Appears to be a normal off center strike. The reeding is on the collar, so a coin struck out of the collar has no reeding. And yes, it clearly has elements of the design off the coin, so it can not be considered a broadstrike.
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The collar adds the reeded edge to coins designed to have them. If the coin is struck outside of the collar, you have an edge as seen here. This error is an uncentered broad strike, so the edge retains it's smooth edge that was created by the gang punch when the planchet was made.

It's normal to have this edge on a coin with this error.
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I agree with off-center broadstruck. Nice example.
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Read igwt79s and Tropicalbats post. This is an out of collar off center strike. There is some of the devices missing on both obv and rev. That's what distinguishes the difference between this and any broadstrike.
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Yes, all off center strikes will lack a reeded edge as it's impossible to have an off center strike while the collar die (the die responsible for imparting the reeding) is engaged.
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Thanks, everyone for the input. I put this quarter on top of another a "normal" one and the diameter is just about the same. I took some more pictures of the rim.

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nice find
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