1909-S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent - Real Or Fake?

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cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1960 Posts	Posted 08/01/2023 11:42 pm Similar Scenario: Within the chest of coins and albums I inherited in 2008 was a Meghrig G-2 Lincoln Cents album, "1909 VDB - 1948S." My father thought it was genuine; purchased it from one of his brothers-in-law. The coin in the photos was in that album. A LCS -- after examination under a scope -- advised it wasn't worth getting graded because it had been cleaned at some point. My question to the CCF: Does it look altered ? If it's genuine but grades out as "Details" is it worth the price of grading ? For now, it's going back in the album. If this post ends up in the "Post Your Counterfeit Coins Here (Educational Thread)" I'll have a definitive answer. . . Thanks " Even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day. " Report this Post to the Staff

nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15381 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 05:51 am @cptbilly - best to post your coin in its own thread for better attention to it. I'll alert a Mod dude to hopefully split it off for you. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 07:39 am I just messaged the Mods to get it relocated for you. so no need to start a new one. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 07:46 am The VDB initials look correct (slanted crossbar on the B and the whole thing is slightly tilted), the color is off a bit, but that could be the image. Can you get better pictures of this coin on a black background and from straight above (not at an angle - that makes the coin look oblong and can trick the eye) Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 08/02/2023 2:14 pm Report this Post to the Staff
cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1960 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 07:59 am @nickelsearcher: thanks for the tip re: thread protocols. @dearborn: will take those photos as you suggest; probably won't happen until Thursday. I have a road trip to Sonora over the Sierras today. Thanks to you both for the assist. Enjoy your day " Even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day. " Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187446 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 08:45 am These replies were split into their own topic for the proper attention. Reference topic: http://goccf.com/t/324074 Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 08:56 am Closeup of the MM area would help! Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 09:02 am have a great trip, see you on Thursday Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19930 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 12:03 pm Need full pictures perpendicular to the surfaces and a close-up of the mint mark. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
barryg Pillar of the Community United States 5821 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 1:47 pm The mint mark on the obverse seems too low to me. Compare this graded example from my collection where the mint mark is actually slightly above the end of the tail of the first 9: Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 2:05 pm Good point, but it could be a different die, However, a good closeup of the MM and date in one image will definitely help. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 2:10 pm This resource may help when we get new images: https://www.PCGS.com/news/counterfe...incoln-cents Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
barryg Pillar of the Community United States 5821 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 2:18 pm @Dearborn: You are correct! I forgot about the fourth mint mark that is significantly lower: So... Never mind. Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4587 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 2:48 pm Or you can go out to the PCGS site and check the photos they have of the four dies. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1960 Posts	Posted 08/02/2023 11:22 pm Thanks to all for your suggestions, requests. FYI: the coin is very dark brown; Used bright light and editing tool (pixlr) to make the VDB and Obverse "brighter". Will take a stab at it tomorrow. In the meanwhile, a couple of snaps from today's excursion: CA-108. . .Spectacular Drive " Even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day. " Edited by cptbilly 08/02/2023 11:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94636 Posts	Posted 08/03/2023 08:26 am wow, that place look very cold there... Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
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