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New Member
Argentina
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Hi! RickyO here, again with some numismatic questions! Well, now, the thing is... My dear, sweet girlfriend is in another city, and they were having a numismatic auction there. And I asked her to buy this coin for me (35 USD, by the way). I still don't have the coin with me. But I see the pictures that I share below. Although the coin's weight seems to be right, I see the feathers, I see the little lace under the chaplet. I see the snake's expression. I see the R in LIBERTAD. I now see... and I don't like it. I think I may have been tricked, I may have been backstabbed, and I may have been, quite possibly, bamboozled. What do you think?   Edited by RickyO
08/19/2023 7:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
24982 Posts |
It's the snake's tongue that always makes me suspicious. Or am I wrong about that?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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New Member
 Argentina
33 Posts |
I started getting suspicious about the shape of the eagle's head, abd the feathers in general. It's so sad I bought a fake! But lesson learned.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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$35 is not a bad price for tuition to the School of I Should Have Known Better.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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New Member
Argentina
33 Posts |
With all my experience, by now I should be director of the School of I Should Have Known Better. Now I am staring at my coins all night and getting suspicious about my 50 centavos (half boliviano) coins. I know they didn't use the most standarized and highest quality minting methods in Potosi in the XIX century, but come on!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Is that PVC residue on it?
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Pillar of the Community
Portugal
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Details are soft, like in the feathers. But the condition is bad. I see nothing suspicious in the letters. Some details are too spread, like the foot of the eagle. The coin may have suffered flattening.
I would not say it is false. Hard to judge in this condition.
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New Member
Argentina
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Hi jecz79! Yes, the coin has seen some circulation indeed. I have seen others in similar conditions, and with similar characteristics, sold by reputable houses. I will wait to have it in my hands and probably post better pics here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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RickyO - Hello and I would not be too hasty in saying the coin is bad. The snake is actually correct. There is part of the R worn away in LIBERTAD but the irregular spacing is characteristic of the series. The "dead" look of the coin could mean it has been over dipped in acid. The price is not bad since right now silver is above $24 per ounce. Any coin of that age also carries a premium over silver melt in a rising market. Potential is also great for a silver increase vs the dollar due to the US monetary policy and deficit. |
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Portugal
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I quite like the eagle theme in mexican coins. So when I had the opportunity to but a peso of this type I took it. By chance it is a 1905 and came from the same dies as yours. Same flaw under the branches in the obverse.
I am quire confident that both are genuine. No forger could cheaply do such fine job of evidence of circulation as mine has. Will upload a picture soon.
The flaw comes from a very odd die break. There is further evidence of a broken section under the first leaf to the left. Visible in your coin also. But the section is depressed on the coin, Which means it was raised in the die. I wonder if these coins were already made using dies that were fully reproduced from a master die. And that one was broken.
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Pillar of the Community
Portugal
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Here is mine. It also has the very shallow leg on the R.  I think I am going to pass on cleaning it. It is one of those coins that look nicer dirty.  Do not know who it would classify on the 1-60 scale. |
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Posted 08/19/2023 7:58 pm
