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Is It Too Good To Be True?

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One of the gold coins with lowest premiums is the 100 Corona from Austria. It's only a little over 2% while other regularly offered gold coins are more than twice that. As stated in the title, I live by the credo "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Is there something here I'm not seeing?
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If you're just looking for the lowest premium over Au spot then probably not, but if you ever plan on selling the coins then you might want to look at the sell/buy spreads. A low premium on the buy side may also mean a lower price on the sell side.

Here's an example from JM Bullion with Au spot indicated on their website at $1,938.39.

Their current buy/sell spread for the 100 Corona restrike is: $1,825.03/$1,950.02. With the 100 Corona having .9802 ozt of Au, those prices are spot-3.95% if you're selling and spot+2.63% if you're buying for a sell/buy spread of 6.58%.

Their current buy/sell spread for a random date 1 ozt AGE is: $1,963.33/$2.080.32. Those prices are spot+1.29% if you're selling and spot+7.32% if you're buying for sell/buy spread of 6.03%.
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I think the problem with the corona is, the Austrians make them as a gold analogue of the Maria Theresa silver thaler (which they also still make) - a restrike bullion coin, but not in a convenient fineness (.900 fine) or weight (almost, but not quite, 1 troy ounce of gold) for the stacker. So, much the same problem that gold sovereigns have, but without the prestige of the sovereign.

There's also no mintage limit; the total mintage is unknown, but very large - the Austrians have been making these 100 corona gold coins since WWI, all with the same fictitious "1915" date. So again, unlike sovereigns (where mintage figures are known and rich folks can collect them by date and mintmark), there's minimal collector interest. Thus, you have a "gold coin" that is less attractive to both collectors and bullion speculators. So thus, minimal premiums.

And, since the corona is no longer a currency unit in Austria, the coin lacks legal tender status - you can't theoretically spend it for 100 coronas, because the corona ceased to exist as a currency in 1925. Due to post-WWI inflation in Austria, the theoretical exchange rate of 100 coronas would be a tiny fraction of a eurocent. Indeed, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, in whose name the coin was originally struck, no longer exists either. So instead of "coins", think of them as a government-issued bullion round.
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In the Stacks Bowers bullion sales they normally go for tenths of a percent over spot. If are interested in one, I would check their weekly Thursday auction.
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The austrian corona has two things for it. It is pretty. And they are well made, well struck. But that is all. There is no collector interest in the restrikes. The restrikes were never used as coins.One could say the same of most gold coins of the past 100 years.
The british only did nasty restrike thing with the 1925 sovereign. An in one other year only. Their sovereigns before Elizabeth II are historical coins.

I think that lacking legal status makes the restrikes a non-coin. A bullion token.

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Canada gold $100's from the 1980's fall in a similar close-to-bullion category. Mintage was fixed but the supply is abundant. The point of buying them is seen in the $100. In 1980 that was a fair face value. Now it's 10x that.
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