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 Posted 09/08/2023  03:40 am Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As long as you can PROVE your coin uses THE same die pair of a known specimen coin (1) would your coin found be a specimen because it used the same dies? or does strike and die state make the difference(2)?

(1)your coin possibly with or without the 2nd strike
(2)if the die state change involved a polishing

The original version of this post was a couple paragraphs and way more complicated. I hope what I went with instead makes any sense.
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Does not make sense to me
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. Nope. Sorry.

I'm glad I haven't run across that other version.
I really couldn't handle it.
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I'm unsure of your question.
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I think the critical part is whether your coin meets the defintion of specimen, whatever that might be.
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Specimen is a minting process, not just a die. Dies were expensive and difficult to make and were often used to strike business strike coins after they were finished striking proof/specimen coins.

So to answer your question: No unless there is a known die marker.

For example, the circulation quality 1792 Half Dismes struck for Thomas Jefferson in July can be differentiated from the presentations strikes from October by rust on the dies.
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Perusal of the following topic appears to agree with BStrauss3's reply.

http://goccf.com/t/448147
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You has Business strike, Proof strike and Specimen strike. As long it is specimen do not matter if from same Die or other. Specimen referee to a kind of strike.

Exist another kind of specimens in the history on the mint at one point before was use just paper design. Those was one coin strike to be presented to the Congress for approval and then was drop in the Museum as historic piece of the Mint.

I hope this you want to know. Specimen do not mean a test, it is a kind of strike and it is commercialize in sets.
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