When / Why Are Medals Referred To As "ingots" ?

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cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1961 Posts	Posted 09/18/2023 12:18 pm When I was researching the Lindbergh International Aerospace Hall of Fame medal, I located the D. Wayne Johnson database entry for the artist, Barbara Hyde. https://www.dickjohnsonsdatabank.co...barbara.html Johnson catalogues her work under these headings: Badge Series; Medal Series; Medals; and, Ingots. Under the "Ingots" listing is a photo of the medal referenced above. I usually associate "ingots" with bars or rounds of precious metals. What characteristic(s) would lead to calling a medal an ingot? Thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff

HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24906 Posts	Posted 09/21/2023 01:56 am Perhaps it was a function of the site to which she uploaded her work? Programmers may have left few choices for categories. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12252 Posts	Posted 09/21/2023 07:43 am I would consider it a mis-categorization per accepted definitions of "ingot." There are a number of similar "ingot" listings on this website that clearly are finished medals vs. an ingot. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1961 Posts	Posted 09/21/2023 09:31 am Thank you for your comments. Report this Post to the Staff
DrDarryl Valued Member United States 434 Posts	Posted 09/23/2023 5:44 pm The images are not properly ordered at the website of D. Wayne Johnson. I'm familiar with D. Wayne Johnson website and book. We exchanged books in 2015 (his Who's Who Among American Medalist for my Authoritative Numismatic Reference: Presidential Medal of Appreciation Award Medals 1958 - 1963). If you look at the bronze medals after the Ingot section, they do not match the ingot's description. Links to the Worthpoint website (for visualidentification). 1973 Curtis Jenny Biplane ingot - Patrick Mint https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...r-2013106028 1973 Model T Ford Ingot - Patrick Mint https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...d-1000879370 1973 Pony Express Ingot - Mother Lode Mint https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...9-1759284653 1973 Prairie Schooner Covered Wagon - Patrick Mint https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...gon-77583224 Report this Post to the Staff
cptbilly Pillar of the Community United States 1961 Posts	Posted 09/24/2023 12:35 pm Thank you for the clarification, DrDarryl. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 09/24/2023 9:09 pm To answer the more general question, it's all to do with the shape. "Ingot" could be used for any square or rectangular medal, even if it's not specifically intended as bullion. The dictionary definition emphasises "block" and "oblong" (rectangular) shape, though I would also happily include "irregular" shapes, such as the ancient oxhide-shaped copper ingots, within the definition. I wouldn't use the word "ingot" for anything round, or even oval-shaped, not even if it was made of bullion metal. So yes, that website is incorrect in filing those medals under "ingots". Looks like it's just an compositional error; those images should have been copy-pasted to the start of the "Medals" list, rather than the end of the "ingots" list. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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When / Why Are Medals Referred To As "Ingots" ?