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1864 2 Cent Red For Grading And Opinions

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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add retiredairforce2009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is another of the skeptical coins that is red and possibly cleaned.
And if it has been cleaned, what kind of grading as far as details?
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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Larger image, please!
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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredairforce2009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will try tomorrow when I get 2 more photos through pixir optimizer.
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Let's try again, 3rd time is the charm.
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Can't tell much from these images. You could probably get better shots if you take the coin out of the 2X2.

Looks like there might be a touch of wear on the high points. The color seems too good to be true, especially since there is no visible luster. My call based on what I can see is AU detail, cleaned and recolored.
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I'll take out tomorrow and retake of photos. It's waaaay past my bed time.
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if you are using a phone try this

1. if coin is in holder, remove coin from holder if possible
2. turn off flash
3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day. Use a black or white background to avoid any reflective color
4. move phone about 3in from coin
5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus and fills the cameras view finder. if your phone has a portrait selection use that and then press and hold on the coin in the view finder to AF lock it
6. hold phone steady. if you can't then place something on either side of the coin (like books) at that distance and lay phone between them. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring
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Stcanding by.
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Unc details, cleaned, reverse damage
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Yes, that color would seem unlikely given the wear that's visible. If the pics are faithful, I see a lot more than "a touch" of wear, especially on the obverse.

The obverse (shield side -- many people get confused with these coins) strike is pretty unusual. It's not a likely counterfeit target, but you nonetheless might consider weighing the coin.
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Here are the pics from outside of flip. Sorry for the late response time, hunting season preparations kept me busy. Hunting season will also keep my busy until I fill all my tags.
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Agree with UNC details, false color. Likely acid dipped.
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AU Details is my vote.
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way too much light/glare to determine originality of surfaces. AU most likely details
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AU details, cleaned.
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