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The Difference In The 2022 Quarter? Melt Value

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 Posted 10/02/2023  06:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Johnnyb99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was recently on a site that provides the melt value of many coins
And I noticed that the 2022 quarter (USD) had a significantly higher meltdown value than most all other besides the odveous gold silver verity in the beginning of 2022 the melt value was almost 5.oo$ USD but continue to drop over time 2021 quarter melt value.03 not accurate on the .o3˘ but a significantly large enough difference that the inaccurate number is no significant matter. Can anyone explain the difference in melt value or please correct my misinterpreted find online. Thanks.
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Link to website?
As far as I am aware, it is illegal to melt those coins here in the U.S.
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Silver content changed from 90% to 99.9% in 2019, so I expect the melt value of 2019 and later to be higher than 2018 and earlier.
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Does anyone know what the laws are in regards to melting.
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Silver is fair game. I believe that only cents and nickels have a ban place.
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I don't understand what you are asking.


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besides the odveous gold silver verity in the beginning of 2022


What does this mean?
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Silver is fair game. I believe that only cents and nickels have a ban place.

So I can legally melt down my American Silver Eagles?


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besides the odveous gold silver verity in the beginning of 2022


What does this mean?


Let me translate - "Besides the obvious gold and silver varieties starting in 2022"

but I have not yet seen any gold quarters minted in 2022, and silver started years before, but the content went up in 2019.

So I think we need to see where you got your information in order to more accurately answer your question.
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Sure. If you want to pay to have it assayed when you sell it.
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Does anyone know what the laws are in regards to melting.

The ban on melting silver coins, put in place in 1965, was lifted in 1967 and has not been reinstated. Unlike most other countries, it is perfectly legal to destroy most US legal tender coins, both inside the US and abroad. As mentioned by others, 1 cent and 5 cent coins are currently banned from melting or export for melting; this law was put in place in 2007 and has not yet been rescinded.

As for the OP's question about incorrect melt values on an unnamed website, I can only assume that the unnamed website is incorrect. The people to ask about it are the people who run the website featuring the incorrect information.
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It is a federal offense to melt any United States currency I don't know the reason why this specific site gave the information for price value for melting down specific coins I believe mostly they were coins of silver mainly silver composition that were highly degraded and worth nothing more than enough value I don't know the loophole for it it was just a odd piece of information that I came across and curious if anybody knew why a weird fact is Penny's prior to 1982 or worth 3 cents to 5 cents pennies after 1982 are worth .03 cents I believe the US nickel actually cost so much more to mint than almost any other coin I believe I forget the specific dates the quarter is only worth I think less than one cent nothing down just fun facts I find in that stuff that's all I've never melted down any coins don't plan on it but thank you everybody for making it well known for anybody that doesn't know it is illegal it is a federal offense to melt any US currency or destruct in the US currency that I'm aware of my poster also talk to text on mobile device and I don't really edit I don't proofread doesn't catch my accent very well if there's any discrepancies or mistakes of spoken into that I do apologize I really like this site I am a fan of most coins American and foreign domestic and I believe in collecting for myself for the younger generation for the new generation for the generation
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It is a federal offense to melt any United States currency

No, you are absolutely, definitely not correct. As stated above, the only federal laws against melting coins are in place for 1 cent and 5 cent coins. The US government reserves the right to pass laws banning the melting of coins at any time, but at this time it has not done so for any coins except 1 cent and 5 cent pieces.

It is illegal to burn or otherwise destroy US paper money, as per 18 USC 333, but coins are fair game.

For coins, the relevant law in question is 18 USC 331:

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Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or

Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

The key word in that law is "fraudulently". The adverb "fraudulently" applies to all the following verbs (defaces, mutilates, alters, etc). This means that according to this law, you can't mutilate or alter a coin in such a way as to commit fraud - by, for example, trying to clip a half dollar down to the size of a dollar coin and passing it off as a dollar, or by painting a penny silver to make it look like a dime, or by altering the date or mintmark of a common coin to make it look like a rare date/mintmark and then selling that altered coin to a collector without disclosing the alteration.

This in turn means that it's perfectly legal to do all those things to coins, so long as no fraud is being attempted. So it is legal to destroy coins completely by melting them down, dissolving them in acid or by putting them in one of those little souvenir-making machines that squashes a penny flat and stamps a new design on it.

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I believe the US nickel actually cost so much more to mint than almost any other coin I believe I forget the specific dates the quarter is only worth I think less than one cent

I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but this too is not entirely accurate.

Yes, at current metal prices, of the four commonly circulating US coins (penny, nickel, dime, quarter), the nickel has the highest metal cost, but only barely - the nickel's raw material costs about 5.3 cents, the quarter about 5.0 cents. However, this doesn't include the cost needed to create the cladding for the quarter, which probably adds an extra cent or two each to the cost of making clad coins.

Speaking of "melt values" of base-metal coins is also rather moot, since the recycling value of a base metal is not determined so much by the sum of its components, but rather on how difficult it is to refine and re-purify the metal. The cupronickel alloy of a nickel, for example: nobody wants or needs an alloy of 75% copper, 25% nickel, except for the Mint - so anybody buying melted nickels would need to find some way of getting rid of the unwanted nickel impurity, so they can make something useful out of the pure copper. The nickel, in this case, would have a negative value, since you'd need to pay money to refine it to get rid of it. We don't have the technology to magically separate for zero cost a piece of cupronickel back into the pieces of copper and nickel from whence it came.

Example: current price of bulk pure copper is about US$8000/ton. Current price of bulk cupronickel is about US$2000/ton.
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