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One Cent Error With Multiple Strikes And Dates.

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(here are the pics you requested..)

Both sides of this coin has multiple strikes. The obverse states 2017 D. Bot also has 2020 though the image is upside down, it looks like 5050 but backwords. Doesn't this coin have to be a 2020. There are 5 or more strikes on the reverse. The obverse has 3 or more.

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That is PMD from a bench vise.
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John calls it.



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Yes, deliberate post-strike damage. One key giveaway is reversed characters.
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Your coin looks to match number 5 in the list of Dirty Dozen Damages. Even though there is no premium value to these, you might try to find a nice example of each.

1) discoloration - stains from a beverage, or environmental damage from being buried, heated, etc.
2) scrapes over much of the coin - damage from sliding on pavement, a parking lot coin
3) coin bent or edges not round - it has been smashed with a hammer
4) coin blank on all or most of one side - someone machined the surface away or sanded it down
5) mirrored lettering - a vise job, a coin squeezed against another in a vise
6) rough, pebbly surfaces - a coin eroded by acid, it might now be underweight
7) smooth rims, smaller diameter - was trapped rolling inside a dryer, a " Dryer Coin", or tapped with a spoon
8) clear mounds on coin - glue that has dried transparently
9) small indentations in the shape of the letter D - marks left by the impact of the reeded edge of another coin
10) large blisters - coin exposed to high heat, such as in a campfire
11) shapes, often letters or numbers, not indented or raised - Pareidolia (like animal shapes in a cloud)
12) a circular scrape just inside the rim - " Ring of Death" caused by a coin wrapping or vending machine

Don't despair! Error coins remain ready to find from circulation, but they are outnumbered by unusual looking coins that merely have been damaged. If you can imagine a way to change an undamaged coin into one like you see, that's probably exactly what happened to it. Changes to a coin after it leaves the mint's striking chamber are considered post mint damage, or PMD, and have no premium value.
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Thanks John How can you tell this. What are the tell tell signs. I got this coin out of a box of coins I bought from the bank. ( rerolled) I know. I don't doubt you, just what to learn.
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The give-a-way are the incused backwards letters and numbers.
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to the CCF Your answer is in Nick10s response. We see a lot of these here.
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Vise job, PMD. A genuine Double Struck coin wouldn't have incuse backwards numbers and letters as John1 said. https://www.error-ref.com/squeeze-j...-garage-job/
https://www.error-ref.com/mulitple-...s-flip-over/
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Another obvious sign that it isn't a mint error is the dates. The mirror-incuse date, stamped twice, is "2020". The date of the original strike of the coin is 2017. I can't think of any means or mechanism where a normal 2017 penny is produced, in 2017, then floats around in the Mint somewhere for three or four years, then get picked up and somehow mirror-incuse struck with a 2020 date.

I can, however, easily imagine how it could be done outside of the mint: some time after 2020, you take a normal 2017 penny, and a normal 2020 penny, and squeeze them together in a vise. To get two impressions of the 2020 coin like this onto the 2017 coin, you'd have to do it a couple of times. Smashing them together with a hammer might work too.
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