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PMD Or Actual Error Twoonie?

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 Posted 10/13/2023  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The toonie is made by first a outer ring is placed into the collar then the core falls into the center hole and the dies strike to create the toonie. This looks like the core fell randomly into the collar and got struck way off centered. I doubt a core centered alone will create a full toonie strike, not enough material but would be cool to see
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 Posted 10/13/2023  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it weighed in at 2.32 grams on my scale. Not sure if it needs to be 2.3 exactly or if my scale is still accurate as it's been a while since I used it. If that's close enough I'd rather just submit it to be slabbed than find someone to examine it. So my questions would be since I never used a grading company for this, which is the recommended choice? I'm sure their website will provide direction how to submit however, are there any tips I should know? I guess lastly is it actually worth submitting? I have a few coins probably around $500 that I haven't bothered submitting. 95% of my coins are probably lower than vg so I have little experience with this.


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 Posted 10/13/2023  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CCCS is the only Canadian company that will grade errors; however, I don't recommend them

http://goccf.com/t/413525

PCGS is your next best bet, but they are in the US and are more expensive.
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 Posted 10/13/2023  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which part of Ontario are you from ?
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 Posted 10/13/2023  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toronto, Scarborough specifically.
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 Posted 10/13/2023  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonielewy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the game that this is a core struck without a ring. Well worth having attributed. You should thank the fellow you purchased the collection from. What a great find. Keep us posted please. Go to CC&C on the coin exchange day and have them XRF it and get some commems in the process.
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 Posted 10/13/2023  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find!
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 Posted 10/13/2023  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin speaks for itself. A one-off submission with shipping and fees is not worth it. Will cost your $300 at PCGS.

If you want to sell just submit to a major auction house. It will sell well. $200 400 600 800? The certification won't matter that much. It will just depend on whether there are enough buyers who care. The buyers will know what it is.
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 Posted 10/14/2023  07:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$200-$800 is what I would get for it or what it would cost me? Any auction house you'd recommend for error coins?
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 Posted 10/15/2023  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointoss22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im from Canada and I haven't seen such a thing! Ivd seen loose centers that people try and rotate... but this is somethin
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 Posted 10/15/2023  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As for auction houses, I would go with either The Canadian Numismatic Company or Colonial Acres.

I haven't used either so can't offer an opinion.
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 Posted 10/15/2023  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those were the range of prices I would think you could get. $200 would be the very low end I think. Not many errors in Canada go over $1000 but this one is quite cool. I would think at least $500.

Submitting to PCGS for a one-off really means using one of their agents. A membership would be cost-prohibitive for one coin. To use an agent you really need to be in the right city or with all the shipping around it will get unwieldy and expensive.

I agree with JS on the auction houses. I have used both and both are fine. I would send them a link to this string and ask what they think as far as value and fees go.

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Ok, sounds good. Lots to think about.

Thanks all for the help.
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Definitely legit as a core struck $2 dies, without the ring. About a dozen examples are estimated to be known, and most of those are from 1996 and 1999.

Yours is from 2006 to 2012 (given the effigy and mint mark).

These are generally worth about $500 to $800, depending on condition and grade, and if already certified. It is worth certifying with PCGS if you plan on selling it. Otherwise, it's not necessary if you want to keep it and enjoy it. Just put it a proper PVC-free coin holder.
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Any auction house you'd recommend for error coins?


Colonial Acres (from Kitchener): https://www.colonialacres.com/Consign-s/1075.htm

Geoffrey Bell Auctions (from Moncton): http://www.gbellauctions.com/

Metro Coin & Banknote in Toronto accepts consignments for Geoffrey Bell Auctions, which is fairly close to you: http://www.metrocbc.com/
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