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PMD Or Actual Error Twoonie?

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I'm guessing PMD but better ask then toss it away.

Looks like maybe some just tried to cut a circle?

If need be I can take it out of 2 x 2.


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Thinking I might have to take it out. Thought the photos were better but the optimizer seemed to kill it.
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 Posted 10/11/2023  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, please remove it from the 2x2 and take some more photos.

It looks like its made of the same metal?
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Superimpose coin in question exactly over a standard coin, matching detail for detail.
You should get a better idea if it is an error or PMD.
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Ok, hope this works.


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Yes, it appears to be same colour BTW.

Also which coin to superimpose over? Does it matter?
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Weight?
Does it stick to a magnet?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 10/11/2023  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not magnetic, weight will have to wait until next week when I'm home again.
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Could it have been struck on the wrong planchet?
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Superimpose over an older pre security toonie like a 2010 and the letters should line up better. Looks like a toonie taken to a belt sander. A pic of the rim where the core and ring meet too, if it's two piece that core should pop out easy.
Third pic the queens nose looks wrong to me.
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Looks like a loose core that got struck on its own? Hence a little bigger than normal?
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If it was struck on a core only then there shouldn't be any serrations as picture 4 shows. My guess is a ground down counterfeit , hence irregular shape and funny queens nose.
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This looks like a German planchete 1996 core. See the groove on the edge. Here's an example.

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Ok, thanks I'll weigh it next week I guess.
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I believe a toonie core is 2.3 grams,so if this is the weight your first step for a toonie on a core worth quite a bit, next is an XRF to confirm it, then off to CCCS or PCGS for slabing. Like the fourth example I have seen in many years, good luck !
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