Quarter Dollar Same Face Both Sides 1950-1951.

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josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 11:24 am Greetings everyone. I had already presented this coin in another forum, where the opinions were that the coin was fake, which I also thought. Last week when I took it to a goldsmith he said that there were no traces of welding on the coin. I wonder how this is possible. Could someone help me to make sure by looking at the photos that it is really fake? The outline seems to be cut only on the surface, it does not go deep. The weight is 6.42 grams - diameter 24, 8.I heard someone say that fake ones weigh less because they are emptied. Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73798 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 11:42 am Probably a Magician's coin. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3468 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:05 pm The line that goes through the reeds on the edge shows where two coins were cut in half and joined (glued?) together. It's a pretty nice example of a Magician's coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:15 pm Hey that is a good example of a Magician's coin. The silver content is probably the highest driver of value, but still a fun thing to have in your collection. To help answer your questions about these, there are two distinct methods for creating them. In both cases, the manufacturer starts with two coins. For the newer method, one coin is hollowed out, leaving one side untouched and the other with a cavity plus only the rim intact. Then, the second coin is reduced in diameter by removing the rim. It can then slide into the hollowed out space and may or may not be adhered in place. For the older method (which was employed for your coin), both coins had one of their sides ground flat. The two remnants were then adhered together, leaving that visible line through the reeds. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6464 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:20 pm A Magician's coin for sure, but not a very cunning one. 80% of people pick heads on the first toss. So it would only work with a setup for "Heads I win, Tails you win." The con is probably way more effective if the target picks the outcome, and the magician flips a two tails coin. Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:22 pm Thanks, what I don't understand is why the dates are different, isn't it better to falsify it with the same date? Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:25 pm yeah for sure, I would want the same date on mine! Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 12:37 pm In any event, the join is clearly visible. Can't imagine what that "goldsmith" was talking about. Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 1:32 pm He said he didn't see any traces of glue or soldering, he said the edge and the lines match. Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 1:36 pm Glue 2 coins with different dates hardly that the contour lines match. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 2:18 pm Hmm, odd. @jose, your first edge pic seems to show a foreign substance in between the two halves. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 2:21 pm Quote: In any event, the join is clearly visible. I agree. Fun find though! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
mike31093 Valued Member United States 354 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 6:57 pm Glad I watched the video. You need the eye of a machinist to carry that out. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95018 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 7:16 pm very neat Magicians coin. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 12:50 am I agree; a Magicians coin. It should make a 'clack', rather than a 'ping', when tested. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15395 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 05:32 am Yep - clearly a Magicians coin Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
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