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2014-P Jefferson Nickel: DDD Optical Illusion Of Notching.

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2014-P-Jefferson-Nickel:-DDD-Optical-Illusion-Of-Notching.
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Pulled this 2014-P nickel out of a Coinstar reject tray yesterday. At a certain lighting angle, the false notching looks compelling. It stretches all the way around the bottom edge of United States of America. When rotated 90 degrees, the true cause of the false edge is revealed—die deterioration and radial flow lines. The radial flow is at a slight angle as it approaches the bottom corners of the letters, which gives the shadows that angled notch appearance.
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I see. That can be very tricky. Pretty interesting how it can fool you.
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the shelflike appearance makes me think Machine Doubling
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I don't think this is Machine Doubling. You can see the surface metal flow grains in the fields. The feathering from the bottom of the devices is from the eroding of the incuse die features towards the rim. Those light lines around the letters have almost no depth, it's really just the Die Deterioration causing a different texture on the coin surface, which reflects the light a little differently.

I've looked at thousands of current model nickels at this point, and I actually don't remember seeing much Machine Doubling. On older coins, particularly 1950-1969, I would say Machine Doubling happens way more often. Current nickels seem to suffer mostly from Die Deterioration.

That's just my Two Cents, of course. I would be interested to see some current model nickels with MD.
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Interesting theories presented. Something to looks into. Thanks for posting this.


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..umm, in this case would it be five cents?
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anything with sharp notches to my way of thinking argues against Die Deterioration because wear is mostly a random process with a net smoothing effect

think about a coin worn from circulation, the devices tend to soften and round rather than develop sharp outlines

the die wearing process does have some feedback, hence the orange peel appearance that reinforces itself in a manner similar to a mogul field on a ski slope, but that too is otherwise unpredictably random
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