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allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 5:01 pm So what I have here is what the Brits call "a sticky wicket" I have two 1967 P Lincoln Cents in this Presentation with the first coin possibly (hopefully) a SMS and the second a Business strike for a comparison. The Special Mint Strike coin is very hard to photograph because of being bright and toward brown in color and dished toward the rim while the comparison 1967 is flat and light in color. I apologize for using two coins but it was my attempt to show how different the SMS coin is. If the SMS coin isn't, then nothing ventured, nothing gained. Both coins comes from circulation so both show hits and the 1967 SMS I think shows worse on the reverse so it is probably impaired! Anyway let me know your thoughts and regards to all. Report this Post to the Staff

nick10 Pillar of the Community United States 3207 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 5:28 pm both look like business strikes to me when the high reflectivity within your photos is taken into consideration Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74279 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 5:46 pm Both look like normal Business Strikes. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 7:09 pm Is there a way to differentiate between 67SMS and 67 business strikes? I know the SMS were minted in SF. but what's the difference? Edited by Cujohn 10/30/2023 7:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25270 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 9:03 pm John, I'm not sure if there is a sure-fire diagnostic to tell them apart. https://www.govmint.com/1967-united...gad_source=1 Here is the cent from my 1967 SMS. I had to use the scanner on it. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96315 Posts	Posted 10/30/2023 9:12 pm they both look like business strikes. SMS coins will have a mirrored field like a proof would. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 08:15 am HB, Your coin looks like it has a more "squared off" rim than a business strike would. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 3:39 pm https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...-sms-rd/3296 Dearborn & Cujohn look at the link above. SMS 1967 had no mirrored fields and were minted in Philadelphia and look a lot like mine. Regards! Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188660 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 3:42 pm I believe all the SMS coins were minted in San Francisco... Quote: To tell the difference, the SMS coins are glossier, and generally have a much sharper strike. Also, FYI and contrary to what most people believe, ALL SMS coins were struck at the San Francisco Mint. http://goccf.com/t/294921#2521566 Remember, all three mints were in use 1965-1967, but mint marks were omitted. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 3:48 pm The coin shown in Original Post is not looking "high quality" a strike as an SMS coin. Just a regular business strike as stated above. Report this Post to the Staff
allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 4:25 pm So I guess PCGS and the internet are wrong about 1,863,344 SMS Lincoln Cents minted in Philadelphia! Can saomeone ask the Mint? Regards to all. Report this Post to the Staff
allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 4:28 pm Sorry about the typo error on somewone. Regards! Report this Post to the Staff
Tacc Pillar of the Community United States 3535 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 4:45 pm You could always send it in to PCGS as a definitive yea or nay in this case. SMS coins are not the easiest varieties to identify without having it in hand. The ones I have seen up close and personal are very crisp looking almost proof like without the mirror surfaces, but hey anything's possible. Good Luck! Report this Post to the Staff
allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 4:52 pm Unfortunately I don't Have the money to send a coin out. In searching around I found several articles that state 1967 SMS sets were minted in San Francisco so I stand corrected. Regards all. Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 10/31/2023 5:26 pm Quote: I believe all the SMS coins were minted in San Francisco... That's what I have read. Don't know if any SF coins were released into circulation? I don't think they would just mint 1,836,000 cents in 67 at the SF mint [ the total SMS sets ], then shut the machines down. There were 3,048,000,000 minted at all three mints in 67. Some of the 3 billion had to come from SF. So did they use the SMS dies to produce business strikes after they were done with the SMS sets? The reason they minted coins in all three branches but left off the MM to discourage hording the "new" dime, quarter, and half coins without any silver in them. Report this Post to the Staff
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