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 Posted 11/06/2023  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add applesauced to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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Too bad I missed out on the 2022 Peace dollar. It's one of the FIVE Canadian silver dollars I need for a complete set. I see it available every so often, but I'm not willing to pay the prices posted for it.


I have a complete Canadian Silver Dollar collection but I have not purchased the Peace dollars for my silver dollar collection. I consider them more of a stand alone collection.

Silver Dollar coin designs are not repeated every year like the Peace dollars are, so that's why I consider them a stand alone collection.
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 Posted 11/06/2023  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have a complete Canadian Silver Dollar collection but I have not purchased the Peace dollars for my silver dollar collection. I consider them more of a stand alone collection.


I agree completely:

- Silver Dollars By the Numbers - 2022 Update



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 Posted 11/07/2023  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion, people are 'overfed' with RCM's Peace dollar, came out recent years in variety of finishes.
RCM could release it as NCLT coin once and stop it, while continue striking in bullion / premium format (let's say reverse proof) annually.

There are huge amount of listings on ebay.
The Coin is available for issue price.


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 Posted 11/07/2023  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add applesauced to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem doesn't come from the different varieties of finishes in any given series.

The only issue ever is the huge increase in mintage year after year.

Of course imho.
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 Posted 11/07/2023  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I understand.

The variety of finishes is just example, of RCM basically releases same coin from year to year.
Increasing mintages - also contributes of reduced demand.

It will sell out eventually.
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 Posted 11/08/2023  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the Allegory of Peace I have seen the weight listed at 132.14g (99.39g outer ring and 32.75g cast core). I would have liked the RCM to make this as a 5 oz coin, it seems odd at 4 plus oz. I also don't understand why the Peace dollar over a year after QEII's passing and dated 2024 (2 year date difference) still bears Queen Elizabeth on the obverse. Will the Canada 160 coins in 2027 still be bearing the Queen's portrait?
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I also don't understand why the Peace dollar over a year after QEII's passing and dated 2024 (2 year date difference) still bears Queen Elizabeth on the obverse.


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I also don't understand why the Peace dollar over a year after QEII's passing and dated 2024 (2 year date difference) still bears Queen Elizabeth on the obverse.

It's explained on the Mint's web site:

- A New Royal Era


It appears the process will not be completed until calendar year 2024.



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 Posted 11/09/2023  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
- RCM - A New Royal Era (from the link Commems provided):

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When will we see the new effigy?
We hope to be in a position to show Canadians the new effigy design in the fall, once the design process had been completed and the necessary approvals obtained.
When will I find one in my change?
We cannot provide an exact timeline as of yet but details will be shared when the new effigy is unveiled.

Ah, yes .... clear, concise and to the point: "cannot provide an exact timeline ... but, .....".
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Oh, I understand that completely, but I just think the RCM could have waited two more months before releasing the newest Peace dollar. That way, there would actually be a clear difference between the issues.
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I have seen the RCM blurb (for about a year now) What I'm wondering from the RCM is why a process that was done largely by hand in 1952 resulted in Queen Elizabeth appearing on coins early in 1953 (wihin a year of ascension)) and with all the advances in technology there couldn't have been an effigy of King Charles ready in a similar amount (or less) of time for a 2024 dated Peace dollar.
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@smuglr: I don't believe the timeline is a matter of technology, so such arguments are not really relevant. It's more of the current approval process within the Royal Family and its advisors.



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 Posted 11/09/2023  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@commems I mention technology because there is no excuse, imho, in 2023 for the effigy to not be in place. Designs can be produced and transmitted back and forth for approval in short order. I can't agree with it being a Royal Family and their advisors issue. King Charles' effigy is on 2023 dated Royal Mint product. It's like getting mail for a deceased relative a year+ later, to me it disrespets the Queen. It is a 2024 dated coin. I respectfully have to stick with it being a RCM or Government of Canada issue.
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Government of Canada issue.


They need the time to find the "correct" artist...
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