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1901-S Barber Half Dollar - Do You Agree With NGC?

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 Posted 11/28/2023  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I doubt that the undergrading will go unnoticed by bidders, wait and see I guess.

You were correct, it did not go unnoticed. Sold for Fine pricing in a Heritage auction tonight.

Heritage had some strong bidding in with the Barber half's tonight. I had to pay up well over price guide for the two I won. They were very choice examples though.
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 Posted 11/28/2023  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG-10 to borderline F-12
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$264 with BP.

The interesting thing about this coin is that it is Reverse 2, recently discovered hub type published in BCCS journal, introduced in 1901. Previously there was only one reverse hub type documented. The difference is in the spacing of BUS in the banner relative to the beak, and the left banner end is angled and not straight on the second type. 1901 had both reverse types, and O and S mints also sporadically produced both through 1905. After seeing Rev2 on this coin, I started poking around and determined that only one reverse 2 die was used for 1901-S, but it was paired with both obverse 1 and obverse 2 (long documented obverse types). So a relative scarce reverse type. I doubt that it was a factor in the bidding though since hardly anybody outside BCCS knows about it.
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 Posted 11/29/2023  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great information kbbpll. I knew about the reverse 2 discovery, but it hasn't been something I check for, as of right now.
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This date/mint is found with either the old obverse hub of 1896-1900 or the new one that debuted this year. The old (Type 1) hub is the more often seen variety, but the rarity and price of 1901-S halves precludes much interest in collecting both.
So yes, not many collectors even look for the well-known obverse types. Now there are three combos for 1901-S that I'm aware of - Obv1/Rev1, Obv1/Rev2 (subject coin), and Obv2/Rev2 (new obv paired with the same Rev2 die). Might be a fun project to collect them all but not that interesting for most people and the rev differences take a lot of effort to ID.
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