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NGC Graded this coin VG-8. Seems majorly conservative to me. What do you grade it?   |
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I'd say VG-10, but that's tops.
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I'm at VG-10 with F-12 considerd and just being missed on obverse. Those detailed laurels and hair curl on cheek sure look VG+ to me, strong shield lines and 60% wing feathers nail a VG-10 on reverse. Graded as VG-8 just makes this coin more desirable i.m.o. as its a cream of the crop VG-8. I'm always looking for under graded slabbed Barber Halfs and Quarters like your example at shows, when I find them (which is not often) I buy.
Sweet coin that rosey pink hue is a winner.
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11/10/2023 09:15 am
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OK, OK I'll go F-12.  |
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F12 to my eyes, check PCGS Photograde. VG is supposed to have a net of three letters in Liberty readable, typically LI and a partial letter or two. F is supposed to have "fully readable" Liberty but "may have letters partially missing." Not sure what NGC was seeing but VG8 typically only has LI and a partial T. Certainly you have to look at the whole coin but I don't see anything pulling it down to VG8.
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Since there isn't much value difference between the lower grades,
I wouldn't worry too much about it, relative to the slab grading and shipping fees.
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I'll go with Fine.
Errers and Varietys.
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Since there isn't much value difference between the lower grades, Actually there is a big jump in value between VG8 and F12 on this coin, like over $200. I wouldn't be happy with the grade either. |
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I can barely see this as a low end F12. Agree VG08 is under graded.
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another undergraded coin. the good thing is that if you paid VG $$ for it you made out.
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I personally think this should just make F-12. I have noticed that newer NGC is the hardest on circulated Barber 50c in the VG-VF range. It doesn't seem like they are grading by the ANA or David Lawrence standards. That has led to me getting some good deals, as I am cracking them out for my album. I have not purchased this coin yet. It is up for auction later this month, and if the price is right, I will give it a shot. VG-8 is a $200-250 cheaper than F-12 in the price guide. We will see if people are bidding the coin or the slab. Edited by ericgreen
11/11/2023 10:50 am
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check PCGS Photograde. VG is supposed to have a net of three letters in Liberty readable, typically LI and a partial letter or two. F is supposed to have "fully readable" Liberty but "may have letters partially missing." keep in mind kbbpll that in todays grading you can't just look at one marker to establish grade. one must look at the overall coin and the other markers as well. also, TPG's are not infallible. I can't count how many times we have come across undergraded or overgraded coins here. in addition. we are looking at photos and do not have the coin in hand. light glare, angle and focus all come into play as to what we see. these photos are quite good and fairly easy to grade. other issues that apply are the mint and date of the coin. problems at a particular mint or series can affect grade. for instance we know early bust half dollars are typically very weakly in certain areas. thats the way it left it mint. does one lower the grade since that occurred at the mint? TPG's think so from what we have seen. lots of things to consider and a lifetime of learning and thats why grading is very subjective and not objective. photograde can get you into the ballpark but don't rely solely on that to grade a coin. you have been here a while so I'm sure you probably have seen this before. this is more for anyone new coming in that may not have the knowledge base yet Edited by panzaldi
11/12/2023 11:49 am
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@panzaldi you'll note that I also said "Certainly you have to look at the whole coin but I don't see anything pulling it down to VG8." I looked at probably a couple dozen of these and almost identical coins have gotten F12 or even F15 at PCGS. @ericgreen as a key date I doubt that the undergrading will go unnoticed by bidders, wait and see I guess.
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Posted 11/10/2023 09:13 am
