Just An FYI - Charlton Standard Catalogue Of Canadian Government Paper Money

Thanks for sharing. Any predictions (trends on series)?

Here's my predictions:

BC1-20 1935 Series:
All denominations
VG-EF (same) AU to G UNC (up)
(The one exception maybe the $25 BC-11 & 12 & the $500 BC-17/18 since they're already so high & don't see much action. One BC-11 low # I saw auctioned, hammered about $50,000 less than was expected)
These 2 might be flat but I've not seen the 2023 Charlton so I could be wrong.

1937 Series:
BC-21a/b $1.00 VG-EF (same) AU to G UNC (up)
BC-22a $2.00 VG-EF (same) AU to G UNC (up)
BC-23a $5.00 VG to G UNC (up across all VF EPQ* to AU EPQ grade levels) The X/C change over from BC-23b up in AU/UNC*
BC-24a $10.00 VG to G UNC (up across all grade levels) The Z/D Gordon Towers change over BC-24b (far scarcer than any Osborne $10 has been traditionally undervalued & needs to go way up from VF & up (IMO)
BC-25a $20.00 VG to G UNC (up across all grade levels) The Gordon Towers H/E change over (25b) & Coyne Towers L/E short prefix should go up in higher grades.
The same for the Osborne $50 & $100 (up) but the Osborne $1000 is already lofty IMO

1954 Devil's Face series:
If world demand is taken into account, all of these from VG up, could be bumped up for all denominations BC-29 to BC-36.

Low & special # plus errors for the first 3 series all should have upswings.

1954 Modified series:
Some replacements should climb up but I would expect the majority of the more common replacements to remain flat in higher grades only. I would expect adjustments would come to the most scarce replacements (*V/V, *C/I for the $1.00 *Z/Z $2.00) plus the E/R & N/R test notes. The replacements for the $5, $10 & $20 may be a bit flat (not much data as we haven't seen any for a while).

1969-1979 Series:
I would expect upswings on most of the tough replacements for the 1969 & 1979 series. Perhaps the gains won't be as good for the 1979 series but collectors know the replacements are tough (same can be said for the Test notes of both series). Higher grades should be going north.

BIRDS:
I expect the Brids series will underperform as it has done in the past (& trends disappointing0. I don't think collectors get overly excited about the colour of their position numbers & some of the change-overs I've seen listed for the Crow-Bouey BC-56a (& ai) $5.00 BPN varieties. I have watched these over the years & see them sit in Colonial Acres stock (rarely move) when they're offered. I feel the same about the big B & other variations on the $2.00. The scarcer signatures for the AUG to AUN prefixes should continue to do well but I doubt the $10 will gain much traction. Perhaps collectors will go for the $20 tougher varieties & we'll see a few upticks on the tougher replacements.

Journey series:
The Journey series has remained pretty flat the last few years & I expect that the pricing panel will continue to turn their noses up on this series. So many collectors jumped all over these as they were winding down that only the Originals Fives BC-62 & Tens BC-63 (sans security strip) will probably see modest gains on the tougher varities. There were many tough short prefixes (the $5.00 APM/ the $10 BTV) & change-overs but they'll likely be ignored in favour of the insert replacements. These are the parts of the pricing tables I completely ignore b/c I find them completely unrealistic.

All new polymer series
I have found that the Charlton guide has been very negligent in recognizing demand for true Gem UNC polymer notes, of which 60 to 75% will have scratches on the see-through window. There are many early short prefixes that have been completely ignored in terms of their great scarcity (& increasing demand for them). Whatever the reasons are is completely beyond me but I expect them to remain flat despite the mounting evidence to the contrary.

These include: BC-70a Macklem Carney FTH $10
BC-71a Macklem Carney BSW $20
BC-72a Macklem Carney AMK $50 & BC-72ai GHD
BC-73a Macklem Carney EKZ $100

All of the above notes are extremely scarce but Charlton has really dragged their feet at acknowledging this (especially the first FTH $10).

* 'My understanding of Charlton is that their estimates are based on original (EPQ) notes, not processed notes. Expect big discounts for non-original or non EPQ (which unfortunately most sellers don't do).

Yes- your set of scarce replacements is remarkable (IMO).

Unfortunately, the pricing panel are an extremely conservative bunch which treat the first 3 series as "Canada's darlings," hype up all the non X designated insert replacements & continue to ignore what's been happening with special # & errors.

It's awesome that they're conservative (adds stability to our hobby & opportunities) but it can get tough to watch over the long run.

I have recycled & inspected several thousand 2013 TENS & saw several Wilkins Poloz FTH change overs & these kept climbing (currently 741 reported on the SNDB) & inching up in Charlton BV while the Macklem Carney FTH remained flat (still with 14 reported). I heard they gave the scarce prefix a small uptick last ed. It's the weirdest thing as the series faded out a few years ago and still the increase isn't even slightly realistic. I realize popularity also influences BV but I do suspect that there's just a general dislike for the first polymers Frontiers series.

At least the 1969-1975 series is much more appreciated (with the $10 EES, EET, EEP good overs, etc) all enjoying big bumps.

I'm not sure why it's increasing, but I was "happily" surprised at the 2023 Charlton BV for the Wilkins-Poloz FTN.
I haven't reported these but the total can be increased to 841!

I'm confused?
Charlton shows the Wilkins-Poloz carry over as FTN (2,818,000) not FTH and it's UNC BV is up to $30. Which is why I thought you were questioning the BV on this note.
The two FTH change overs are Macklem-Carney UNC $40 and Macklem-Poloz UNC $14.

+1

I remain confused why there's such a big bump on the W-P FTN. I got many runs of these & found them ridiculously easy EXCEPT several had scratches on the holograph windows. But they weren't tough at all.

Another collector updated me on the 2022 catalogue and gains for the W-P FTN were similar to the gains on the M-C FTH. This made no sense at all. That's why I was wondering why (or how) the editor of Charlton could keep posting such high BV for FTN. I am still wondering if there's a possible connection & am still puzzled by their high BV (according to Charlton). I've never seen anyone pay the premium Charlton has attributed to the FTN either. I've got lots & nobody has wanted them (for $5.00 above FV). Seems like another big oversight on their part. There's other weirdo premiums on the 2012/13 Frontiers tables but the TENS seem to be the most off & disconnected to reality. I always get a lot of good info from their guide (& it surpasses C&C by a longshot) but I typically dismiss most of their tables for the recent series/special numbers/errors.

thanks for sharing snapshot of the FTH BV's @Q60driver!



The # of notes printed is next to meaningless with some prefixes (the Macklem Carney FTH especially). You need to execute a RAW ENQUIRY on the SNDB and then look up the prefix. You will actually get the data of who entered what from where/when.

My enquiry showed that:
the first Macklem Carney FTH8233489 was reported by a collector from Kitchener, Ontario in September 2013. The same collector entered a 2nd FTH on December 2nd 2014 (#8320478). What is odd about this is that another collector from Sarnia, Ontario enters 2 notes on the same day (FTH8002998 & FTH8044594). He also enters another FTH6872825 the next day (12/03). It makes me wonder if he found a brick or several bundles (he reports 4). That is the lowest # FTH entered in the SNDB. There are no 7M # notes and nothing below 6872825. Of the 14 notes entered, 10 were found in Ontario, 2 in BC, 1 in Alberta & 1 in Quebec. The majority of notes are in the 8M range.

You can see a similar pattern for the Macklem Carney GHD $50 (61 notes reported). Two notes were in the 0001000 -4000 range & 4 notes reported between 0034000 - 0042000 range. The rest (55) reported are 4.5M to 4.88M (end point). The majority of the GHD $50 notes were discovered in ON, with several from QC, Alberta, BC & even NFLND.

Or maybe most of the prefix was eventually issued but knowbody really cares or notice, very few people looks at their change or bank withdrawelsl. The high speed printing process and the automatic techs used today does not need a human intervention of replacing damaged notes with special desisignated notes so most collectors have lost intersts in these maybe rare inserts notes. The US BOE recently has announced that starting in new year some denomintions will be printed not in sequence, so they must be stepping up newer techs in the printing process