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Chinese Coins Idinification?

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I have these two Chinese coins. I know they are about 100 years old. I know nothing else. The first coin is app 4 cm. The second one is between 25-30 mm. It seems both are silver. Any help?

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G'day, the first coin is commonly called the "fat man dollar", and dates to the era just after the Chinese Empire collapsed in 1911. This coin has been copied by the millions, and there are vastly more fakes than genuine ones to be had. A genuine dollar weighs about 29g. A fake is usually noticeably lighter: often less than 20g.

I don't recognize the second coin. I see a flower design on it: that is often seen on Japanese coins. But I know even less about them than about Chinese coins.

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the weight is 29g.. My father purchased it when he was in Nam and Japan in the early 60's. Or should I just say Asian theater? He could have purchased it in Thai land as far as I know. I do remember him showing when he arrived back home.
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The first one looks real enough. The color looks like silver rather than cupronickle. Still, a better pic would help.

The second one is from Taiwan, Republic of China. This type is the old $1, and this one was minted in 1972
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Here is a photo of a coin identical to mine. It is cleaner than mine. The only other difference is on the obverse, characters. the third from the left is a 10 or Cross (t)instead of an r.

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I have found out today the coin was minted in 1912. So now I know what it is called and what year it was minted. Now I only have to find out what it is worth? Thanks for the much needed help.
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Can you give me a bigger pic of the first one? It looks like year 10, 1921.

A genuine specimen at around $30 at the least
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Yes I typed it incorrectly. it is 10, 1921. This is the best I can do. I know it is a little blurry. Sorry.

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Well, if you want to know a bit more about this coin, here it is.

So, during the 1930s and 1940s in China, paper money were printed way too much in order to finance the war, the government, and just plain inflation. So, paper was more and more worthless but silver dollars kept their value. My great grandfather told me that in the morning, a 1/2 kilo of rice was about 20 paper yuan, and by the end of the day it was about 100. But luckily for him, who worked for the government and was paid in silver dollars or foreign silver, 4 kilos was always a dollar.
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Thank you for looking at the coin. I do appreciate the information. It is a good coin. I only wished I could take a better photo of it. It does have a slight yellowing on the coin. I do have a Chinese man that I am helping learn English. I did not think till today to ask him. he is the one that gave me the date and name of the profile. Never think of the obvious?
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Well, I can read Chinese, too. So if you ever need translations, post a good pic here.

I thing our sap here too is also very efficient in identifying old cash coins.
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